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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

0.08 is important for some other reason, I just can't put my finger on it...

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Don’t quit your day job to do math.

You’re 1000% out, mathematically. It was 0.8% quarterly growth, not 0.08%. You shorted the Canadian economy’s growth by a factor of 10. I know you want to make Carney seem like he’s doing nothing, and Poilievre would be much better, but that’s a bit much, even for a self-proclaimed asshole.
Well since your taking a shot at me and trying to rile me, noted. DS will probably cool my jets.

If you believe Carney is acting with integrity for this nation, your right out to lunch. AT this point, I am convinced he threw the trade deal away for political polling gain (go ahead call me a far right winger/rage baiter/truck convoy supporter/etc).

How about those 87,000 to 102,000 projected Canadian job losses based on trade deal breakdown? Got an answer for that? Ohh its all Trump's fault.

Hell even Yves Blanchett called him out yesterday for using Quebec culture as an excuse.
 
Hey @Good2Golf
Isn't awesome, how a year and a half into Carney's mandate we have record level food bank usage, soaring deficit (and debt), still losing jobs, no significant (key word) new trade deals with someone outside the USA (It will be hard to displace $408 Billion export), Provincial premiers who all do their own damn thing (and shoot their mouths off), and the inter provincial trade is still a giant shit show.

Yeah, lets jump up and down and celebrate Carney for what? Ohhh wait. Its all Trumps fault. He is the same obnoxious guy now as he was in January 2025. Ohhh wait, Its Pierre's fault instead.
 
I said it before and I will repeat myself. Many of you here defended Trudeau almost to the end. We all acknowledge he was a shit show.

Some here defended Jagmeet as "Kingmaker" when in fact he destroyed the NDP trying to prop up the Liberals.

Yvess Blanchett is still in my mind, the most honest party in federal politics.
 
Well since your taking a shot at me and trying to rile me, noted. DS will probably cool my jets.

You’re the one who self-professes assholery often, not anyone else.

If you believe Carney is acting with integrity for this nation, your right out to lunch. AT this point, I am convinced he threw the trade deal away for political polling gain (go ahead call me a far right winger/rage baiter/truck convoy supporter/etc).

Neither the U.S. nor Canada have officially released the draft agreement or any official minutes of the meetings, so we don’t know. If it was as the U.S. says, I have no doubt that they would have done so in a heartbeat. You believe Carney was playing fast and loose with retracting the team at the last minute. That’s fine. That’s your call to do so. Personally, I believe Lutnick absolutely poisoned the well. I also believe that Lutnick has Peter Navaro on speed dial and those two do Trump’s bidding to set conditions for increasing hybridized economic warfare against Canada to further split the U.S.-Canada win-lose ratio.
How about those 87,000 to 102,000 projected Canadian job losses based on trade deal breakdown? Got an answer for that? Ohh its all Trump's fault.

I’ll wait to see how the projection holds, particularly if the Sect.338 tariffs and the whatever Section the Jan 2027 50% broad flat-rate tariffs are, do against the bi-partisan backlash building in the U.S. House and Senate as we speak and likely USSC challenges/reductions/strike downs to come.

It seems natural for one to take what supports their opinion, even if it’s a projection vice a measurement, and to concurrently find reason to disbelieve or argue against other results that do not support one’s beliefs or opinions. Projected job losses as yet uncomfirmed justify damnation, but real data showing improvement is to be dismissed…check.

Hell even Yves Blanchett called him out yesterday for using Quebec culture as an excuse.

Franchement, je prendrai la position de la première ministre Québécoise, Christine Fréchette, comme celle-là qui représente la province de Québec, et non celle-là d’une partie fédéral visée à la séparation de Québec du Canada.
 
How about those 87,000 to 102,000 projected Canadian job losses based on trade deal breakdown? Got an answer for that? Ohh its all Trump's fault.

How about the actual 227,900 real jobs gained by Canada from when Trump 47 took office in Jan 2025 to the present (Jul 26 - STATSCAN doesn’t have AUG 26 yet)? (20,986,900 Jan 25 > 21,214,800 July 26). Doesn’t Carney get at least a sliver of credit for that?

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How about the actual 227,900 real jobs gained by Canada from when Trump 47 took office in Jan 2025 to the present (Jul 26 - STATSCAN doesn’t have AUG 26 yet)? (20,986,900 Jan 25 > 21,214,800 July 26). Doesn’t Carney get at least a sliver of credit for that?
Away with you with your facts peasant!

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Canadian travellers pulled hundreds of millions of dollars out of the United States in the first part of 2026, according to new data released by Statistics Canada.

The agency’s regular National Travel Survey released Tuesday showed Canadians cut back on trips, average visit length and spending on trips into the United States during the first three months of 2026, when compared to the same period a year prior.

Canadians made nearly 500,000 fewer trips into America and spent about $800 million less on those trips year over year, according to preliminary numbers gathered by Statistics Canada.

The spending total accounts for the total costs of the trips made between January and March, which includes money spent in Canada and on airfare for travel.

The data shows a continued decline in Canadian interest in U.S. travel, even before the latest round of trade tensions between the two countries.

A drop from numbers in 2025...which in and of itself was a drop from 2024.

I like it. Tariffs are secondary, everyday Canadians continue to vote with their wallets.
 
They never had a 20 point lead against the Liberals when Carney became Prime Minister. They had it against the Trudeau Liberals ...
Agree, with the tweak in yellow.
... If you believe Kory Tenyecke, you better get your head on straight, he is a LOBBYIST openly lobbying the federal LPC for several companies.
To be fair, his boss has done well - electorally, anyway - as a Team Blue guy, even if more than a few out there say he's not Blue enough, or not really Blue.
 
To be fair, his boss has done well - electorally, anyway -
Dougie has. But lets be honest, last Ontario election, Dougie could have showed up drunk and babbling incoherently everyday and still secured a majority. The opposition was that weak. And he did his patriot duty talking about sticking it to Trump, so voila, easy majority victory. Kory could have been nowhere near and still the same result.
 
Before anyone screams victory, jobless rate was around 6.5% in January 2025 and in July 2026 is reported as 6.4%. Where is the "yay us" we should celebrate here?

Other than wanting to try and throw sand in my face, how about looking at the mood of the nation as a whole? It ain't good. But its Trump fault!

Do you hear the Liberals talking about removing any fees, taxes, surcharges, levys, etc on us? Fuck no. All I hear is a bunch more money to be printed up and made available as help for job losses (and businesses) but that is only a stop gap. And it further lowers the value of the Canadian dollar, even when measuring it against itself.
 
Before anyone screams victory, jobless rate was around 6.5% in January 2025 and in July 2026 is reported as 6.4%. Where is the "yay us" we should celebrate here?

Other than wanting to try and throw sand in my face, how about looking at the mood of the nation as a whole? It ain't good. But its Trump fault!

Do you hear the Liberals talking about removing any fees, taxes, surcharges, levys, etc on us? Fuck no. All I hear is a bunch more money to be printed up and made available as help for job losses (and businesses) but that is only a stop gap. And it further lowers the value of the Canadian dollar, even when measuring it against itself.
as long as Trump is there and acting like Trump and doing Trump things, this will be the way
why i expect Carney to call and election before the US Presidential in 2028
 
Before anyone screams victory, jobless rate was around 6.5% in January 2025 and in July 2026 is reported as 6.4%. Where is the "yay us" we should celebrate here?

Other than wanting to try and throw sand in my face, how about looking at the mood of the nation as a whole? It ain't good. But its Trump fault!

Do you hear the Liberals talking about removing any fees, taxes, surcharges, levys, etc on us? Fuck no. All I hear is a bunch more money to be printed up and made available as help for job losses (and businesses) but that is only a stop gap. And it further lowers the value of the Canadian dollar, even when measuring it against itself.
A slight decrease in unemployment over the duration of an economic onslaught and levying of significant tariffs by our largest trading partner is no mean feat. It suggests some solid defence being played.
 
Dougie has. But lets be honest, last Ontario election, Dougie could have showed up drunk and babbling incoherently everyday and still secured a majority. The opposition was that weak. And he did his patriot duty talking about sticking it to Trump, so voila, easy majority victory. Kory could have been nowhere near and still the same result.
I can't quantify Angry Kory's contribution, for sure, but the opposition was weak (still, a hat-trick is still a decent result over the longer term), and his backtracking in some areas is a double-edged sword. Boosters'll say "hey, he course adjusts as needed," while haters'll say, "can't stick to a principled stance consistently."
 
Other than wanting to try and throw sand in my face,
Better than throwing it in your underwear, amirite?

how about looking at the mood of the nation as a whole? It ain't good. But its Trump fault!
Canada dropped from 5th in "happiness" to 18th over the span of the 10 years Trudeau was PM. It's not surprising some may want to assauge any guilt they might have by looking for someone else (than the LPC) to blame.

That said we can't ignore the anxeity a US president acting like a toddler with a Glock 18 causes, let alone any actual financial impact. Carney just has to point south and he jumps 10 points in the polls.
 
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