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14 Dec 2025: Bondi Beach Australia Hanukkah Attack

There are still people who can't reconcile that women aren't solely in the kitchen anymore.


Interesting. I would suspect that the data might be different in urban vs rural environments. A large municipal department/detachment would be able to have at least elements of their tactical/containment/negotiating people on scene fairly quickly vs a rural detachment where they might have to be called out then drive some distance.
Yeah but for an active shooter, “fairly quickly” can be a lot of dead people.

First on scene pushes straight for the threat and keeps pushing. Anyone else arriving tries to catch up. If tactical show up in time to make a difference for the actual changing of the behaviour away from ‘active threat’, great. Usually they don’t, just because the threat is stopped by initial responders within the first few minutes.
 
More heroes. Apparently, this happened before the attack on the beach and the couple were the first victims.

Dashcam video shows couple trying to stop gunman before being killed in Bondi attack

A couple killed in the Bondi Beach shooting tried to stop one of the alleged attackers by grabbing his gun, dramatic dashcam footage shows.

Boris Gurman, 69, and his wife Sofia, 61, courageously stepped in to try and protect others before being shot themselves, their family said in a statement.
 
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