14 Dec 2025: Bondi Beach Australia Hanukkah Attack

[brihard]

There are still people who can't reconcile that women aren't solely in the kitchen anymore.


Interesting. I would suspect that the data might be different in urban vs rural environments. A large municipal department/detachment would be able to have at least elements of their tactical/containment/negotiating people on scene fairly quickly vs a rural detachment where they might have to be called out then drive some distance.

Yeah but for an active shooter, “fairly quickly” can be a lot of dead people.

First on scene pushes straight for the threat and keeps pushing. Anyone else arriving tries to catch up. If tactical show up in time to make a difference for the actual changing of the behaviour away from ‘active threat’, great. Usually they don’t, just because the threat is stopped by initial responders within the first few minutes.

 

[PMedMoe]

More heroes. Apparently, this happened before the attack on the beach and the couple were the first victims.

Dashcam video shows couple trying to stop gunman before being killed in Bondi attack

A couple killed in the Bondi Beach shooting tried to stop one of the alleged attackers by grabbing his gun, dramatic dashcam footage shows.

Boris Gurman, 69, and his wife Sofia, 61, courageously stepped in to try and protect others before being shot themselves, their family said in a statement.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

That is incredibly brave of them, it likley their actions did save some lives that day.

 

[OldSolduer]

That is incredibly brave of them, it likley their actions did save some lives that day.

When ordinary people step up like that they become extraordinary people. I hope the Government of Australia recognizes them somehow

 

[RangerRay]

The Intifada is globalized and it’s a three headed hydra.

The Intifada, Globalized

The massacre on Bondi Beach won't be the last.

claireberlinski.substack.com

A depraved moral and intellectual climate makes massacres like this inevitable. There’s a hydra-headed monster on the loose—made up of Islamists, the far-left, and the far-right, all of them amplified by Russia and funded by the Gulf. Each needs, inspires, and catalyzes the other. No one is serious about stopping it. But they should be, because killing Jews is just the opening act.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The Intifada is globalized and it’s a three headed hydra.

The Intifada, Globalized

The massacre on Bondi Beach won't be the last.

claireberlinski.substack.com

We have the means and the physical tools to stop this. Its a question of will.

 

[lenaitch]

Yeah but for an active shooter, “fairly quickly” can be a lot of dead people.

First on scene pushes straight for the threat and keeps pushing. Anyone else arriving tries to catch up. If tactical show up in time to make a difference for the actual changing of the behaviour away from ‘active threat’, great. Usually they don’t, just because the threat is stopped by initial responders within the first few minutes.

Which, if recall correctly, was the whole point of developing Initial Rapid Deployment (or its various names). People were dying under a widely-held policy of 'hold, secure and wait for the cavalry' in active shooter situations.

 

[Jarnhamar]

We have the means and the physical tools to stop this. Its a question of will.

In Canada with the Liberal government?

See my post in the Liberal thread about them giving an anti-swmite $100k and then trying to hide it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

In Canada with the Liberal government?

See my post in the Liberal thread about them giving an anti-swmite $100k and then trying to hide it.

Canada needs some bad events to have a come to Jesus moment on this. I truly hope that doesn't happen, but we continue to put our heads in the sand.

 

[mariomike]

Which, if recall correctly, was the whole point of developing Initial Rapid Deployment (or its various names).

For reference to the discussion,

Immediate Action Rapid Deployment (IARD)​

Training Tuesdays: Immediate Action Rapid Deployment

Mastering Immediate Action Rapid Deployment at Depot. First posted on October 15, 2024

rcmp.ca

• IARD can best be defined as the swift and immediate deployment of law enforcement resources to an ongoing , life threatening situation where delayed deployment could result in death or grievous bodily harm to innocent persons.

Immediate Action Rapid Deployment (IARD) Program - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

At Depot, cadets receive essential training in Immediate Action Rapid Deployment (IARD).

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Canada needs some bad events to have a come to Jesus moment on this. I truly hope that doesn't happen, but we continue to put our heads in the sand.

I THINK what may protect us a little is the massive amounts of fundraising that happens here......golden goose and all that.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I THINK what may protect us a little is the massive amounts of fundraising that happens here......golden goose and all that.

Also something that should be stopped.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Canada needs some bad events to have a come to Jesus moment on this. I truly hope that doesn't happen, but we continue to put our heads in the sand.

It won’t work. First, there will be a week of empty “hopes and prayers” from Canadian politicians, Then the Jews will just get blamed for “getting what’s coming to them, after Gaza”. Finally, Canadian gun owners will lose more guns…because.

Do I have that about right?

Because, going after Russian, Iranian and Qatari agitators and bag men is too hard.

 

[Halifax Tar]

It won’t work. First, there will be a week of empty “hopes and prayers” from Canadian politicians, Then the Jews will just get blamed for “getting what’s coming to them, after Gaza”. Finally, Canadian gun owners will lose more guns…because.

Do I have that about right?

Because, going after Russian, Iranian and Qatari agitators and bag men is too hard.

Sounds about right to me.

 

[daftandbarmy]

If only there was some kind of warning that something like this might happen...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001241387245953158

 

[OldSolduer]

It won’t work. First, there will be a week of empty “hopes and prayers” from Canadian politicians, Then the Jews will just get blamed for “getting what’s coming to them, after Gaza”. Finally, Canadian gun owners will lose more guns…because.

Do I have that about right?

Because, going after Russian, Iranian and Qatari agitators and bag men is too hard.

Hammer meet nail - right on the head

 

[Halifax Tar]

If only there was some kind of warning that something like this might happen...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001241387245953158

We are doing this to ourselves.

 

[RangerRay]

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[RangerRay]

We have the means and the physical tools to stop this. Its a question of will.

What we need is leadership to let the police and security services to use existing laws to go after the foreign agitators and those using criminal hate speech in public. They have been tip-toeing around this for too long.

Also, it’s time for civil society to shun anti-semites, and by extension anti-Zionists again. We’re seeing that 80 years after “Never again”, it is now meaningless.