2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[CBH99]

Harper, of course. It all comes back to him.

Is there ANY aspect of current Canadian politics that can be laid at Harper's feet though?

After 10 years, I feel like anything going on in the country and the current state of affairs rests solely on who's been in charge during that time period. (Whatever the state of those affairs may be)



10 years ago we had a far better functioning criminal justice system. Our currency was worth about 41% more than it is today. Our national debt was officially less than half of what it is today. We had the best immigration system in the world. Foreign investment was at healthy levels. Our industries across the board were more robust, with less red tape and slow government approvals. Our birth rate was doing better. And people were, I would say, on average happier and less stressed out than they are now...

Damn that Stephen Harper, leaving us with such a mess!

 

[CBH99]

PP won’t go near anything convoy in this election. He has been very quiet about that for some time now. He knows it’s a liability for him.

How so??

(I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering...my brain be kinda rusty today)

 

[The Bread Guy]

Canadians are stupid if they're buying that the LPC, after 10 years of absolutely trashing affordability, are going to now all of a sudden do something about it. Carney has simply taken advantage of the free media coverage that drowned out any opposition statements.

Well, there was that long stretch where the Tories were well ahead - comfortable, not slim double digits / of the Liberals. Same free media was at play, with a bit of paid helping soften PP’s image. Were Canadians stupid then too?

PP’s talking TFSA ceilings to an awful lot of folks who don’t have $5k lying around that they don’t know what to do with. Folks around these parts are rightly livid about how much fuel, food and the other “must have’s” cost, not “when the f#%>€•?$&@k can I put more tax-protected money away.”

Same old battle plan may not be so suitable in a new battlefield. We’ll see how it goes.

 

[Remius]

How so??

(I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering...my brain be kinda rusty today)

He was very vocal,in his support when that became convenient. After it became more than just about anti vaccine mandates he went quiet, during the inquiry he said nothing either. He won’t now either.

Most Canadians were against what the convoy became. He knows that it would be more fuel to a fire he doesn’t want started. So talking to much about Carney’s role would only bring up more questions about his support to that movement.

Kinsella had a take on it but he wasn’t the only one.

KINSELLA: Poilievre smart to abandon convoy protesters

Spare a thought and a prayer, if you will, for the convoy types. Because they are sad and lonely, these days.

torontosun.com

 

[brihard]

Well, there was that long stretch where the Tories were well ahead - comfortable, not slim double digits / of the Liberals. Same free media was at play, with a bit of paid helping soften PP’s image. Were Canadians stupid then too?

PP’s talking TFSA ceilings to an awful lot of folks who don’t have $5k lying around that they don’t know what to do with. Folks around these parts are rightly livid about how much fuel, food and the other “must have’s” cost, not “when the f#%>€•?$&@k can I put more tax-protected money away.”

Same old battle plan may not be so suitable in a new battlefield. We’ll see how it goes.

CPC were lining up for one sort of election…




…and ended up with a very different sort of election.

 

[Lumber]

CPC were lining up for one sort of election…

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…and ended up with a very different sort of election.

No more roads!?! Sheeeeeeeee-it I love roads! I'm definitely not voting liberal now!

 

[brihard]

No more roads!?! Sheeeeeeeee-it I love roads! I'm definitely not voting liberal now!

Is that an intentional Clay Davis reference?

 

[Lumber]

Is that an intentional Clay Davis reference?

 

[MilEME09]

No more roads!?! Sheeeeeeeee-it I love roads! I'm definitely not voting liberal now!

This is when the liberal promise flying cars.....

 

[brihard]

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Nice. I’ve been working my way through a rewatch, just started season 4. Probably my favourite show.

 

[YZT580]

Carney started as an economic advisor specifically for covid and how to help the economy with that. Then he was named to the economic council which did not meet before Trudeau resigned. He was not some all powerful advisor like many make him out to be, he wasn't the finance minister, who had the power to take or not take his advice.

Secondly you say he will push jobs off shore but that's contrary to all his statements about building a robust Canadian economy. Especially the infrastructure and energy corridor.

Whether he was on committee or not he was actively talking to senior liberals including Butt and others with some say. His coronation shows too much evidence of manipulation to be otherwise. Justin was obviously trying to recruit him so they must have had words. They also shared the same love of the colour green and are totally opposed to oil and gas which to me is a far more scary hidden agenda than anything Harper ever had

 

[MilEME09]

Whether he was on committee or not he was actively talking to senior liberals including Butt and others with some say. His coronation shows too much evidence of manipulation to be otherwise. Justin was obviously trying to recruit him so they must have had words. They also shared the same love of the colour green and are totally opposed to oil and gas which to me is a far more scary hidden agenda than anything Harper ever had

Carney statements even back in 2015 showed he understood O&G was important to the Canadian economy and there was no question that you can't magically replace it over night. Now in this election he has stated traditional O&G is a key part of canadian economic strategy. Claiming he is fully against O&G is certainly the strategy Danielle Smith, and her paid media in the western sentinel and rebel media. However Carneys statements and action at the first ministers meeting show the opposite of the propaganda war being waged.

 

[Jarnhamar]

1. Doesn't matter what party Carney had to work with what he had.

Carney "had" to bring both of those MPs back into the fold?

2. All major parties initially ignored the report of 4 Canadians being executed, highlighting Carney but ignoring Pierre and Singh failure to address it is beyond hypocritical.

I'm highlighting Carney ignoring one of his MPs suggesting a Canadian citizen who apparently has some kind of bounty on his head should be "delivered " to the Chinese. Maybe give him the Khashoggi treatment?

3. We can't beat the blind trust to death but the reality is he no longer controls those assets, how they are bought and sold.

Yeah he has someone managing his shit, that's fine.

What I'm talking about is all the assets he put into the blind trust. Canadians have no idea what they were e.g a yacht from Putin. It's all conveniently hidden.

 

[Remius]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1906408130826674682

Boutique tax cuts. Sounds familiar.

 

[MilEME09]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1906408130826674682

Boutique tax cuts. Sounds familiar.

Pretty much, if this was limited to industry it would of been great but because it's blanket, the housing market will skyrocket in cost

 

[YZT580]

Carney statements even back in 2015 showed he understood O&G was important to the Canadian economy and there was no question that you can't magically replace it over night. Now in this election he has stated traditional O&G is a key part of canadian economic strategy. Claiming he is fully against O&G is certainly the strategy Danielle Smith, and her paid media in the western sentinel and rebel media. However Carneys statements and action at the first ministers meeting show the opposite of the propaganda war being waged.

Crap. Pardon my French but his stand on carbon taxing says differently and the fact that whilst he has mentioned building additional lines he has not spoken out against the so-called No More Pipelines bill at least from what I have read. His actions and words appear to be more aimed at convincing people up until election night and not coming from any firm conviction. If he was truly in favour, at some point in the recent past he would have publicly mentioned to Justin that maybe backing off the tax line was a good idea instead of waiting until his reign had started.

 

[HavokFour]

Hot out of the oven, new numbers from Nanos.

Carney’s Liberals open up 8-point lead over Poilievre’s Conservatives in latest Nanos tracking

The federal Liberals have opened up an eight-point advantage over the Conservatives in the latest Nanos Research tracking on Day 9 of the federal election campaign.

www.ctvnews.ca

Alt: https://archive.ph/g0x11

 

[MilEME09]

Crap. Pardon my French but his stand on carbon taxing says differently and the fact that whilst he has mentioned building additional lines he has not spoken out against the so-called No More Pipelines bill at least from what I have read. His actions and words appear to be more aimed at convincing people up until election night and not coming from any firm conviction. If he was truly in favour, at some point in the recent past he would have publicly mentioned to Justin that maybe backing off the tax line was a good idea instead of waiting until his reign had started.

I recommend reading between the lines, C-69 only affects federal assessments, by telling the provinces that provincial environmental assessments are good enough if completed, that by passes C-69 and other laws because no federal assessment will be conducted.

Now in housing news this morning

https://twitter.com/x/status/1906703876901761113

 

[brihard]

Hot out of the oven, new numbers from Nanos.

Carney’s Liberals open up 8-point lead over Poilievre’s Conservatives in latest Nanos tracking

The federal Liberals have opened up an eight-point advantage over the Conservatives in the latest Nanos Research tracking on Day 9 of the federal election campaign.

www.ctvnews.ca

Alt: https://archive.ph/g0x11

At this point I think the polls have mostly stabilized, and the large swinging trends we saw have arrived at steadier levels of support. We can expect to see exact numbers wiggle a few percent up and down within statistical margins of error. No one poll will be significant, it’s still about trends sustained over several days and multiple polling firms.

Due to how they sample, often rolling samples over several days, any new controversies or breakthroughs will take a few days at least to show up in polling numbers.

 

[Lumber]

Crap. Pardon my French but his stand on carbon taxing says differently and the fact that whilst he has mentioned building additional lines he has not spoken out against the so-called No More Pipelines bill at least from what I have read. His actions and words appear to be more aimed at convincing people up until election night and not coming from any firm conviction. If he was truly in favour, at some point in the recent past he would have publicly mentioned to Justin that maybe backing off the tax line was a good idea instead of waiting until his reign had started.

You can be for a carbon tax and also for building more O&G infrastructure. A carbon tax only eats into O&G profits, it doesn't eliminate it. It's not a zero sum game.