2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[Fishbone Jones]

They made their fortune running contraband into the USA?

That is the biggest stretch in the world of blatant self-aggrandizing I've seen in quite awhile. Joe Kennedy was a financier, ship builder, a motion picture tycoon and an extremely profitable bootlegger. He retired at 41 after establishing a million dollar trust fund for each of his 9 children.

The Ford's not so much. Doug Ford Sr. owned the Deco label company and spent four years as a MPP.

 

[Rifleman62]

From X:
@bc_perspective

BREAKING
Mark Carney resumes his campaign, choosing to only focus on those ridings where he has guaranteed support…Schedule:
Cayman Islands - Sun
Bermuda - Mon
Beijing - Tues/Weds
JCCC Event - Thurs

 

[Furniture]

former board member you mean, he was never CEO of brookfield, his highest position was vice chairman of the board. The CEO of BAM is Bruce Flatt, and has been since 2002. Facts matter, and when the CPC claiming Brookfield is Mr. Carney's company when in fact it's Mr. Flatt's is a big difference.

Thanks for getting all the fly shit out of the pepper...

Vice Chair of the board is still vastly different than having some stocks.

This sort of "hey, look at those guys" kind of defense is weak, and transparent.

 

[MilEME09]

Thanks for getting all the fly shit out of the pepper...

Vice Chair of the board is still vastly different than having some stocks.

This sort of "hey, look at those guys" kind of defense is weak, and transparent.

and the attack is he is making money off of his policies benefiting brookfield, stocks are stocks, and if both sides are making money, its the pot calling the kettle black. His former position is irrelevant.


in other news, Energy projects and alberta, Nuclear however

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912136544242250218

 

[Furniture]

and the attack is he is making money off of his policies benefiting brookfield, stocks are stocks, and if both sides are making money, its the pot calling the kettle black. His former position is irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant...

The fact you refuse to admit they are very different things tells me you are not arguing in good faith, so I'm done with the conversation.

 

[IKnowNothing]

and the attack is he is making money off of his policies benefiting brookfield, stocks are stocks, and if both sides are making money, its the pot calling the kettle black. His former position is irrelevant.

Technically it could present a relational conflict of interest, but yeah- different than a financial one, and they're still massive hypocrites playing at political theatre as they throw shit at the wall.

former board member you mean, he was never CEO of brookfield, his highest position was vice chairman of the board. The CEO of BAM is Bruce Flatt, and has been since 2002. Facts matter, and when the CPC claiming Brookfield is Mr. Carney's company when in fact it's Mr. Flatt's is a big difference.

Not to Jenni, all that matters is feeding the rage and keeping the base motivated.

 

[Remius]

Some pre debate polling.

338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections

338canada.com

Still stable and slight deviations from the last little while.

 

[MilEME09]

Technically it could present a relational conflict of interest, but yeah- different than a financial one, and they're still massive hypocrites playing at political theatre as they throw shit at the wall.

His position while it could create the impression of a conflict on interest, given his assets are in a blind trust, which was a requirement, and he no longer has a position with the company, unless he starts having dinners with the board, as long as he keeps far away from anything related to brookfield directly there will be no CoI. I am merely pointing out the theocracy of the CPC claiming Carney is making money off of brookfield when they are as well.

 

[Brad Sallows]

All this worry about investment ethics is beside the point.

What are the reasons for thinking an experienced banker/investor is going to be a good PM, any more than an experienced doctor ("health care!"), former CAF member ("defence!"), lawyer ("justice reform!"), teacher ("education!"), political scientist ("national unity!"), etc, etc?

The LPC secures a lot of support by being good rice bowl providers. After Harper turned a bunch of those off and Trudeau turned a bunch of them on again, I doubt that Carney is going to be able to overcome party preference and risk a small forest of knives in his back. And there's no point thinking we can elect a "negotiator" who will manage to do what no other country in the world seems to be able to do right now. A LPC majority will be more of the same. What's the case for that?

 

[IKnowNothing]

His position while it could create the impression of a conflict on interest, given his assets are in a blind trust, which was a requirement, and he no longer has a position with the company, unless he starts having dinners with the board, as long as he keeps far away from anything related to brookfield directly there will be no CoI. I am merely pointing out the theocracy of the CPC claiming Carney is making money off of brookfield when they are as well.

Depends on the definition, whether you're going strictly financial or broadening to include other aspects. I would hope that the screen the commissioner is setting up takes into account the potential for personal ties and allegiances and their potential influences, beyond that of simple stock holdings. But that's getting into seriously grey waters.

I agree though. Hence condemning it as theatre. All of these "principle" oriented attacked lines about BAM are an unprepared war-room flailing to see what will inflame the ignorant.

Thought piece on the tax "issue."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opinion-corporate-tax-avoidance-tempest-192833596.html

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Im really surprised this isn’t getting more coverage

Why the Damaging RCMP Open Letter To Mark Carney Matters​

Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

drive.google.com

Full text of letter in .pdf - Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

 

[Lumber]

Im really surprised this isn’t getting more coverage

Why the Damaging RCMP Open Letter To Mark Carney Matters​

Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

drive.google.com

Full text of letter in .pdf - Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

Because this is just a list of old gripes that have been already talked about adnauseum and no one expects Carney to address. It's also a private letter from two retired (possibly only 1 retired) RCMP members. Not exactly a hot potato that anyone really cares to pick up.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Im really surprised this isn’t getting more coverage

10 years of apathy towards scandals, racism, and foreign interference from Canadians. You shouldn't be that surprised.

 

[Maxman1]

Yes because we all know only Mark Carney has assets in Brookfield.........

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Apparently they don't own stock in Brookfield directly, they own exchange traded funds that hold Brookfield, among other companies.

Either way, it's not at all the same as being chairman and having millions in options.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Im really surprised this isn’t getting more coverage

Why the Damaging RCMP Open Letter To Mark Carney Matters​

Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

drive.google.com

Full text of letter in .pdf - Prime Minister Carney Open Letter Package.pdf

Well, the case has been getting more-than-zero coverage as recently as late last year ....

80,000 emails: Evidence disclosure continues in China info-passing case

Bill Majcher was a member of the Richmond Non-Partisan Association while working as an RCMP undercover operator.

www.vancouverisawesome.com

RCMP filed data requests in investigation of ex-Mountie facing foreign interference charges

Authorities allege William Majcher, a resident of Hong Kong, used his network of Canadian contacts to obtain intelligence or services that benefited the People’s Republic of China

www.theglobeandmail.com

Former B.C. RCMP officer charged with alleged China information passing gets bail

Former Richmond school trustee William Robert Majcher allegedly gathered information for the People's Republic of China to damage Canadian interests.

www.richmond-news.com

Ottawa invokes national security to refuse disclosure in foreign interference case against ex-Mountie

William Majcher’s lawyer was served notice that the government invoked Section 38 of the Canada Evidence Act to deny the defendant access to some evidence on national-security grounds

www.theglobeandmail.com

... including a bit of discussion on the threads around here (although some of the articles - including Sam Cooper's - seem to have disappeared).

Because this is just a list of old gripes that have been already talked about adnauseum and no one expects Carney to address. It's also a private letter from two retired (possibly only 1 retired) RCMP members. Not exactly a hot potato that anyone really cares to pick up.

Thanks for a bit of the "where's this come from?"

 

[mariomike]

They made their fortune running contraband into the USA?

Quoted from the article. Not my words.

https://torontolife.com/city/rob-ford-family-tree/

They call themselves the Canadian Kennedys.

 

[ArmyRick]

Seems like people are trying to defend and justify a few things on the Carney side of the campaign
-Why was one of his team offering up bounty money for a conservative candidate
-Why he spoke to left leaning reporters condescendingly
-Why he can't clearly explain where he files taxes and to whom
-Why we can't trust everything you read in the Globe and mail, then next day Robert Fife tore him a new one on CTV
-Why he doesn't know why China is rooting for him
-Why some of his staffers did a button campaign and he only "re-assigned them (sorry not sorry, eh Mark?)
-Why he won't repeal Bill C69 but plans to "unleash Canada's energy sector"
-Why he didn't actually plagiarize his thesis even though its almost word for word copied
-Why he tried to take credit for Paul Martin and then Harper/Flaherty management of the countries funds
-Why its not his fault Great Britain never wants to see him again in an official position
-Why he has general and vague description of his platform ideas with ZERO details
-Why he plans to run a few more deficits

The list keeps going. And this stuff has nothing to do with Trudeau. This is going to be interesting watching him get verbally eviscerated on both debates.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That is the biggest stretch in the world of blatant self-aggrandizing I've seen in quite awhile. Joe Kennedy was a financier, ship builder, a motion picture tycoon and an extremely profitable bootlegger. He retired at 41 after establishing a million dollar trust fund for each of his 9 children.

The Ford's not so much. Doug Ford Sr. owned the Deco label company and spent four years as a MPP.

He was also a Nazi...

Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MilEME09]

We now have Stephen Harper's former Chief of Staff, and his former lawyer coming out for team red, interesting

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912150500125847594

 

[Fishbone Jones]

He was also a Nazi...

Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That was a nice little diversion, but has nothing to do with this election. Time to move from the tangent methinks.