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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

Thumbtack in your shoe, plus puckering your ass.

It's not science, it's not admissible in court. Polygraph is as trustworthy as political promises.
I think they can be admissible in civil court and used for gathering and corroborating other evidence.

We may not be able to throw an MP in jail for failing a polygraph but where there's smoke there's fire.
 
I think they can be admissible in civil court and used for gathering and corroborating other evidence.

We may not be able to throw an MP in jail for failing a polygraph but where there's smoke there's fire.
There's apparently a case where a police force put a colander on a suspect's head, had a sheet of paper saying "you're lying" on the bed of a photocopier, and every time the suspect spoke they'd press the Copy button and show him the printout that said "you're lying".

That is about as scientific as a "real" polygraph.
 
It also offers up a lot more punishment options for leaks - but also increases people without need to know to get access.
No it doesn’t. The clearance itself opens the door to ‘right to know’ (which must be in co junction with ‘need to know’), but what actually increases the legal jeopardy in Canada is being Permanently Bound to Secrecy under FISOIA. That opens up disclosure or confirmation offences under sections 13 and 14.

Thumbtack in your shoe, plus puckering your ass.

It's not science, it's not admissible in court. Polygraph is as trustworthy as political promises.
A polygraph is simply a prop used by a skilled and experienced interviewer to try to push harder for truth. It is, however, an accepted tool for certain employment screenings and security clearances.
 
There's apparently a case where a police force put a colander on a suspect's head, had a sheet of paper saying "you're lying" on the bed of a photocopier, and every time the suspect spoke they'd press the Copy button and show him the printout that said "you're lying".
Did it work though?
 
Oh, sure, the CPC is "in alignment" with the US Democratic party.

Approximately unchecked illegal immigration.

Massive deficit spending.

Catch-and-release law enforcement.

Higher taxes.

Defence spending cuts to pay for social programs.
 
Oh, sure, the CPC is "in alignment" with the US Democratic party.

Approximately unchecked illegal immigration.

Massive deficit spending.

Catch-and-release law enforcement.

Higher taxes.

Defence spending cuts to pay for social programs.
Picking and choosing won’t get you anywhere. We can compare a whole lot more like abortion, health care, supply management, religious issues etc. It isn’t on everything but it is much closer ideologically than the GOP on a lot of policy issues but not all.
 
Carney on guns, the only thing I like is saying the RCMP should be the ones classifying, but the damage is already done. If he truely believes that, he needs to revoke every OIC ban then just say "The RCMP will review their classification"


So nothing on Bail Reform but keep targeting lawful Canadians.
Right that makes the most sense. LPC ideologically incapable of change on this front.
 
So nothing on Bail Reform but keep targeting lawful Canadians.
Right that makes the most sense. LPC ideologically incapable of change on this front.
On one hand the liberals target the wrong things, on the other hand the CPCs plans are plainly unconstitutional. We get two extremes, seems like no one knows how to deal with crime properly
 
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You missed the point I was making. The CPC is ideologically in sync with the Democrats on abortion. Not the GOP.
Point for point our Conservatives are basically the Democrats which is why it is funny when people who cheer for the Democrats attack the Conservatives. If anything there isn’t really much common ground with the Republicans at all.
 
Another couple hundred of km's driven through some Alberta ridings.

PC dominate on signage. And while I've been called and texted like crazy by them (and not on a mailing list) there has been no mention of meeting with constitutes despite these being some of the largest towns in the ridings. Will also note a blue rock will probably get 50% of vote just for being on the ballot so it's a low engagement cost.

NDP present on signs in every community...they're small but present. No mention of meeting with constituents.

LPC - almost crashed in shock as I finally saw a single lawn sized sign up leaving town. I guess we do have a candidate running locally. Will note though this is the only candidate I've seen posting a series of town engagement meetings for every major center and apparently reaching out to folks.

Your local situation may vary. Elk and deer are looking healthy which was more interesting that election signs most of the drive.
 
On one hand the liberals target the wrong things, on the other hand the CPCs plans are plainly unconstitutional. We get two extremes, seems like know one knows how to deal with crime properly

I am not convinced that the SCC is correct in their assessment of mandatory minimums etc. The courts overall are very clearly part of the problem now due to mindset and inclination. It’s a problem shared with the Correctional system.

 
What's a good debate, and how is the war room defining it?

I don't think there's enough time (or an appetite) to redefine Poilievre in any sort of way that will land as genuine. And I don't think the two of them have the faintest clue as to actually sell their vision and bring undecided voters into wanting a Poilievre government on it's merits.

That leaves only one path- convince the undecided that they would rather have a Poilievre government than a Carney one. And that's not going to be accomplished with the same approach as playing to their base.
I don't understand the argument when people talk about the Conservatives "playing to their base"

I just want a government that has the ability to execute on ideas, that doesn't pass legislation the people don't want, doesn't grift away millions of hard earned tax dollars at a time, doesn't allow 1.2 million people a year to move here while only building housing for 200k, promotes and protects the same idea of Canada that everyday Canadians do, doesn't have a big scandal every f**king week, respects the basic principals of democracy & good governance, and whose senior Cabinet ministers aren't out-of-touch twats

Maybe that makes me their "base"...I don't know. I don't know what their base is, or what it looks like...


I want a competent government that enacts common sense legislation, that is in line with the same basic moral code the rest of us have, can actually execute on things, and doesn't intentionally sabotage our own economy.

(You know, like the good ol' days!)



I want a government that wants Canada to be strong, that puts the best interests of Canadians first.

I DON'T want a government that actually tries to propel us into being the world's first 'post nation state'


I want criminals who blatantly victimize other people to go away from those people.

I don't want someone that's already out on bail for a violent offense (often times more than one) to be walking around society committing more violent offences.



I don't feel like this is a Conservative "base" thing. I don't feel like Pierre is tailoring anything towards a 'core base' of his supporters.

I feel like his message resonates among most normal, working class people regardless of what party they have historically affiliated themselves with.
 
Poilievre gaining slowly...


The close race between the Liberals and the Conservatives continues with only a five point difference between the two main parties (LPC 43, CPC 38, NDP 9). On the leadership front, although Carney has a comfortable lead on who Canadians would prefer as Prime Minister (Carney 47, Poilievre 35), Poilievre has been incrementally closing the leadership gap over the last few nights. A week ago the Carney advantage on the preferred PM tracking was more than 20 percentage points. As of last night, it was 12 points. (Three day tracking ending April 9, 2025)

 
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