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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

Carney has been trudeau's financial genius for 5 years. It is his recommendations to trudeau that put us in the financial mess we're in now.

Although I guess you could argue he's a financier, not an economist. Harper is an economist and doesn't trust him to manage the economy.
Careny started as an advisor specifically about Covid economic recovery, then named to the economic council that never ended up actually meeting. Saying he ran the show and Trudeau took 100% of his advice is a heck of an assumption, did you stretch before that reach?
 
Does Carney’s platform mention Brookfield has interests in the prefab housing he's pushing?

Does Carney’s platform mention Brookfield has interests in the heat pump initiative he's pushing?

Does Carney’s platform mention that Brookfield has interests in the US AI data centers that he wants to lock us into 25 year contracts for, instead of investing in Canada?

Does Carney’s platform tell people that when they get one of the liberal prefab houses complete with heat pumps, they'll be leases owned by the government and administered by Brookfield? You'll never own the home or land (and you'll be happy).

Carney’s saying a lot of things, but there is a hell of alot more he's not talking about.
 
Doug Ford’a education minister appears to have been tasked to poke Poilievre in the eyes today. Apprently this letter went out to at least some daycare parents in Ontario:


I can conceive of no reason for this whatsoever except to give the CPC a wee stab and a knife twist in the final week. I’m becoming more convinced Ford has designs on the CPC leadership.
It looks to me that they are talking about the current carney government and hoping a new government will work with them. I don't see anywhere that they are attacking Conservatives. What am I missing?
 
That’s what kills me. Why is the guy behind the old plan (that really screwed all of you) all of a sudden has a better plan and it’s going to be better than his old plan.

Same Liberal Party but “it’s better trust us”.

Sigh.
Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me three more times, I'm a fucking moron.
 
Does Carney’s platform mention Brookfield has interests in the prefab housing he's pushing?

Does Carney’s platform mention Brookfield has interests in the heat pump initiative he's pushing?

Does Carney’s platform mention that Brookfield has interests in the US AI data centers that he wants to lock us into 25 year contracts for, instead of investing in Canada?

Does Carney’s platform tell people that when they get one of the liberal prefab houses complete with heat pumps, they'll be leases owned by the government and administered by Brookfield? You'll never own the home or land (and you'll be happy).

Carney’s saying a lot of things, but there is a hell of alot more he's not talking about.
Sure a lot of your own assumptions, brookfield, brookfield, brookfield, Where in the Liberal platform does it say they will sole source everything to Brookfield? or companies related to them? Can you provide any evidence to support your claims?

There are over 320 prefab home builders in canada, 29 heat pump manufacturers, 54 data center providers, there is no leasing of homes by the Goc.

He may not be talking about a lot, but he is sure making up a lot less then you are.
 
Careny started as an advisor specifically about Covid economic recovery, then named to the economic council that never ended up actually meeting. Saying he ran the show and Trudeau took 100% of his advice is a heck of an assumption, did you stretch before that reach?
I'm glad you have such blind faith in a government that has proven to be the worst, most expensive, most ethically challenged, most financially irresponsible, most divisive government Canada has ever seen. If you think for one minute because carney didn't have a title, he wasn't driving trudeau's financial initiatives, that's on you. Everyone needs a hero I guess.
 
It looks to me that they are talking about the current carney government and hoping a new government will work with them. I don't see anywhere that they are attacking Conservatives. What am I missing?
$10 a day childcare is very squarely an LPC program. The LPC have specifically commit to expand the program in their platform. The CPC have pledged merely to honour the existing commitments- in Ontario’s case, the one ending in March.

The unavoidable connection to be made here is that subsidized daycare is on the table this election. Everyone knows who brought it in and who can be expected to extend it.

This certainly isn’t helpful to the CPC. If it gets traction, it puts them on the spot to either commit to perpetuating something they were not, at its outset, supportive of, or to not commit to upholding it. Either they grudgingly accept a core LPC policy, or they’re seen not to. From the LPC it would have been a predictable if adroit political move. From a provincial conservative government it’s a bit of a kick in the dick.

I'm glad you have such blind faith in a government that has proven to be the worst, most expensive, most ethically challenged, most financially irresponsible, most divisive government Canada has ever seen. If you think for one minute because carney didn't have a title, he wasn't driving trudeau's financial initiatives, that's on you. Everyone needs a hero I guess.
Yup, because Trudeau famously follows the advice of those in supporting finance roles. I remember how effusive his minister of finance circa last fall was in her praise of his handling of the finance portfolio, and good he was at heeding the advice he was receiving.
 
The LPC platform does not account for or rely on any growth in general tax revenues beyond PBO baseline forecast.
Status quo pretty much always changes.

I don't expect sophisticated models. Something simple would do. Example: run several years of surpluses to build up a cushion to deal with some event dropping in every 5 to 10 years (2008, 2019, 2024). If all the CoAs are "Fuck it, we're going to run deficits now and deficits later and deficits to the end of time", none of them is much use. What they all have in common is the unspoken wish that a big downturn will fall into someone else's lap. If it falls into your own, just run a bigger deficit and leave the mess for when you get kicked out.

Our productivity growth is for shit. "Infrastructure investment" and other public spending are going to be about as useful as they have been the past few decades (ie. not at all). I doubt government could outguess 40 million Canadians even if Finance had 5,000 Einsteins working there.
 
Are poll workers unionized?

They better not be taking union dues from the scant fees I'll get for working at a polling place. :(

But no, the people who work the front line at polling places are not unionized (well, not for that job, they could be in a union for their other job if they have one). Mostly, their only paid involvement with Elections Canada is the time spent on a very short training session and the actual time that they are at a polling place.
 
Status quo pretty much always changes.
You're missing the point. I wasn't staking philosophical ground re: deficit spending for stimulus, or stimulus via tax cut vs stimulus via spending.

Simply thst once you strip out Poilievre's hopes for 2nd order economic benefits and compare apples to apples, the difference in net budgetary measures between the disastrously inflationary sneaky Carney plan and the righteous pennypinching common sense Poilievre plan is... 20 billion
 
$10 a day childcare is very squarely an LPC program. The LPC have specifically commit to expand the program in their platform. The CPC have pledged merely to honour the existing commitments- in Ontario’s case, the one ending in March.

The unavoidable connection to be made here is that subsidized daycare is on the table this election. Everyone knows who brought it in and who can be expected to extend it.

This certainly isn’t helpful to the CPC. If it gets traction, it puts them on the spot to either commit to perpetuating something they were not, at its outset, supportive of, or to not commit to upholding it. Either they grudgingly accept a core LPC policy, or they’re seen not to. From the LPC it would have been a predictable if adroit political move. From a provincial conservative government it’s a bit of a kick in the dick.


Yup, because Trudeau famously follows the advice of those in supporting finance roles. I remember how effusive his minister of finance circa last fall was in her praise of his handling of the finance portfolio, and good he was at heeding the advice he was receiving.
It won't be that obvious to the average voter, mostly because most won't read it. We have a novel membership here that loves pulling on every loose thread and extrapolating how long it will take to unravel the weave. Not what most people do.

Nothing to do with finances. She was part of the putch to get trudeau out of the picture. In the meantime, she's fallen into lockstep with carney.
 
It won't be that obvious to the average voter, mostly because most won't read it. We have a novel membership here that loves pulling on every loose thread and extrapolating how long it will take to unravel the weave. Not what most people do.

Nothing to do with finances. She was part of the putch to get trudeau out of the picture. In the meantime, she's fallen into lockstep with carney.
I’m pretty sure most people who are newly benefiting from federally subsidized daycare have a basic awareness of where it came from. The other side’s been pretty busy about making sure they all know it’s been the Liberals in power for the past decade.

There are about 1.2 million kids in daycare in Canada. That’s not a commanding cohort of families, but it’s not tiny either. It’s also a policy that will have some appeal to younger Canadians thinking about starting or expanding families - we’re a bit of a battleground demographic in the Affordability Wars. Others will find the policy appealing simply out of ideological agreement with the principle of it; others for the potential economic impact of helping more parents (mostly mothers) back into the workforce.

So, it’s not nothing. And I don’t think anyone’s super confused about who rolled the policy out.
 
$10 a day childcare is very squarely an LPC program. The LPC have specifically commit to expand the program in their platform. The CPC have pledged merely to honour the existing commitments- in Ontario’s case, the one ending in March.
The wordsmith in me remembers the word “protect” the program from Team Blue. Anytime I hear that, I wonder if they mean “it won’t change,” or “we will keep it sustainable.” The latter wording would allow them to, say, cut funding to the provinces but let them do what the hell they wanted. Remember fed health transfers going this route. We’ll see …
 
Sure a lot of your own assumptions, brookfield, brookfield, brookfield, Where in the Liberal platform does it say they will sole source everything to Brookfield? or companies related to them? Can you provide any evidence to support your claims?

There are over 320 prefab home builders in canada, 29 heat pump manufacturers, 54 data center providers, there is no leasing of homes by the Goc.

He may not be talking about a lot, but he is sure making up a lot less then you are.
You just don't know much about their holdings do you? You also haven't followed the news on these products either or special interests. This is not a singular suspicion on my part. Many people are aware of how slippery he is when it comes to his fortune. Still no financial disclosure three days from the election. Whether he has time left to disclose or not, an honest candidate would still put it out there, because that's what voters want. He's supposed to be the world's financial whiz kid, he should have his own finances at hand. However, he's hiding his finances and holdings because he doesn't give a fiddlers what Canadians want. Just so long as they fall in line. In the meantime, I can't trust his financial plan if he can't produce his own.

Evidence? Not playing that game with you again. You haven't identified Randy yet.😉
 
In the same way that it's been Harper's fault for the last 10 years?
1000% - but even some Blue backers around these parts have been situating the estimate about how any clawback of Blue promises would HAVE to be laid at the feet of Team Red because of their ham fistedness at the helm.
 
The wordsmith in me remembers the word “protect” the program from Team Blue. Anytime I hear that, I wonder if they mean “it won’t change,” or “we will keep it sustainable.” The latter wording would allow them to, say, cut funding to the provinces but let them do what the hell they wanted. Remember fed health transfers going this route. We’ll see …
Verbatim, “we will… …honour existing deals with provinces and territories on child care and pharmacare.” So, commitment to the current agreements for their existing duration.
 
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