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2025 Wildfire Season

Chopper crunch... no serious casualties, thankfully

Found out about this one post deployment. Glad to hear no fatalities...hope the injuries - both physical and mental - are light.

Been head down focused on different fires and while it's rare to happen...it does happen. Thankfully both increased aircraft performance (Eurocopter AS-350 B3's are so much nicer than Bell 206's) and more attention to pilot training has hopefully reduced risks. Initial attack is always tricky as you're trying to land in area pre-pad construction.
 
“ What BCWS doing”…
The initial decision to go modified response seemed goofy to me.
I haven't had to fight fire in that particular area...so not going to armchair guess exact rationale. I have been on other fires in BC where the slope and unstable rock made it too dangerous to put men on the line in that particular area so could be a reason. Mountain fires are so completely different from boreal forest fires a person has to re-evaluate a lot of tactics...just the slope and topographic influences on winds create big differences. Nice thing about fighting fires in Canada...people take priorities over trees.

Ideally they get some nice gentle soaker rains but no downpours that would lead to floods. Just know BC Wildfire is running flat out (which is not unusual for them this time of year) and hoping it's a safe tail end of season for their staff.
 
Over by my place. They’ve pulled the choppers back. Bombers going in 6 at a time. Big Con Air jet flying around too.
 

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I haven't had to fight fire in that particular area...so not going to armchair guess exact rationale. I have been on other fires in BC where the slope and unstable rock made it too dangerous to put men on the line in that particular area so could be a reason. Mountain fires are so completely different from boreal forest fires a person has to re-evaluate a lot of tactics...just the slope and topographic influences on winds create big differences. Nice thing about fighting fires in Canada...people take priorities over trees.

Ideally they get some nice gentle soaker rains but no downpours that would lead to floods. Just know BC Wildfire is running flat out (which is not unusual for them this time of year) and hoping it's a safe tail end of season for their staff.
It’s almost vertical there, as I understand it.
 
Yep. Out by the carrot farms. Probably rabbits running around trying help.
 
Mountain fires are so completely different from boreal forest fires a person has to re-evaluate a lot of tactics...just the slope and topographic influences on winds create big differences
Strictly curious and slightly off topic, are you familiar with the Yarnell Hill fire that wiped out the Granite Mountain Hot Shots? If so, would that have been considered a mountain fire?
 
Yep. Out by the carrot farms. Probably rabbits running around trying help.
Sneaking Elmer Fudd GIF by Looney Tunes


Be vewy vewy quiet.....
 
Strictly curious and slightly off topic, are you familiar with the Yarnell Hill fire that wiped out the Granite Mountain Hot Shots? If so, would that have been considered a mountain fire?
Only in abstract. Definitely mountain terrain...

Low visibility on total fire = low situational awareness
Light flashy fuels prone to rapid spreads
uphill conditions (fire heading up slope goes much more rapidly than flat ground)
limited escape route
and a wind shift...

I will note that working on a slope, in light fuels, with a wind shift is a very common set of conditions related to wildland injuries and fatalities. Many of these are conditions that require extra caution and it's why spring grass fires scare me more than summer major crown fires...grass fires go from boot high to 10' flames very quick...a crown fire takes time and you can get out.

I've been down to the SW states a few times on personal business...and every time thought how lucky I am I don't have to fight fire there.
 
Over by my place. They’ve pulled the choppers back. Bombers going in 6 at a time. Big Con Air jet flying around too.
Pretty standard airspace management. When bombers go in the helicopters are either altitude restricted or more commonly moved out of the area so the attack run for each bomber can be set up. When the bombers go for reloads the helicopters come back in. Big part of the air attack officers job is managing the number of aircraft in the air and ensuring everyone has safe positioning.

Helicopters can land, move out of the area, or sometimes orbit high....either way it's clear the way for the fixed wing guys.
 
You may remember this incident that happened back in January involving a Canadian water-bomber sent to fight the fires in California. He's not just a "developer" but a co-founder of one of the studios (Treyarch) responsible for the create the video game giant Call of Duty.

 
This is really not good...

Reduce wildfire risk or B.C. faces dire economic consequences: study​

Indirect costs — including disaster recovery, property loss, environmental damages, and business and health costs — can push the total costs of wildfires 1.5 to 20 times higher.


If B.C. doesn’t turn to large-scale efforts to reduce the risks of wildfire, it could have dire economic consequences, says a paper published in the journal Science.

The paper was written by wildfire ecologist Robert Gray, UBC adjunct professor Robin Gregory, and Calvin Sandborn, a former professor and senior counsel at the University of Victoria law centre.

They said the wildfire picture in B.C. in the past decade is stark.

More than 70,000 square kilometres, an area the size of the Republic of Ireland, have been burned. The costs to fight those fires were $4.8 billion, with the province setting aside a wildfire contingency of $2.8 billion in its 2023-24 budget.

But that is not the entire picture.

Indirect costs can push the total costs of wildfires 1.5 to 20 times higher, from disaster recovery to property loss, environmental damages, and business and health costs.

A recent Natural Resources Canada study cited in the paper showed it cost $676.9 million to fight wildfires in the B.C. Interior in 2017, which caused 10,000 people to be evacuated from Williams Lake.

But the cost of disaster recovery, property damages, forgone timber harvesting fees, renewal of damaged forests, business interruption and lost old-growth forest was pegged at $1.184 billion.

The Science paper points out that the total costs of the Fort McMurray wildfire were $10 billion. The Natural Resources Canada study showed the cost to fight the wildfires was a small portion of that, at $362 million.

The paper’s authors noted that it’s already difficult for jurisdictions the size of B.C. to absorb the high level of economic burden due to wildfires, and ask what happens when the rising indirect costs of wildfires increase to 10 or 15 per cent of a government’s annual operating budget.

“These are really big, ugly numbers,” Gray said in an interview.

 
This is really not good...

Reduce wildfire risk or B.C. faces dire economic consequences: study​

Indirect costs — including disaster recovery, property loss, environmental damages, and business and health costs — can push the total costs of wildfires 1.5 to 20 times higher.


If B.C. doesn’t turn to large-scale efforts to reduce the risks of wildfire, it could have dire economic consequences, says a paper published in the journal Science.

The paper was written by wildfire ecologist Robert Gray, UBC adjunct professor Robin Gregory, and Calvin Sandborn, a former professor and senior counsel at the University of Victoria law centre.

They said the wildfire picture in B.C. in the past decade is stark.

More than 70,000 square kilometres, an area the size of the Republic of Ireland, have been burned. The costs to fight those fires were $4.8 billion, with the province setting aside a wildfire contingency of $2.8 billion in its 2023-24 budget.

But that is not the entire picture.

Indirect costs can push the total costs of wildfires 1.5 to 20 times higher, from disaster recovery to property loss, environmental damages, and business and health costs.

A recent Natural Resources Canada study cited in the paper showed it cost $676.9 million to fight wildfires in the B.C. Interior in 2017, which caused 10,000 people to be evacuated from Williams Lake.

But the cost of disaster recovery, property damages, forgone timber harvesting fees, renewal of damaged forests, business interruption and lost old-growth forest was pegged at $1.184 billion.

The Science paper points out that the total costs of the Fort McMurray wildfire were $10 billion. The Natural Resources Canada study showed the cost to fight the wildfires was a small portion of that, at $362 million.

The paper’s authors noted that it’s already difficult for jurisdictions the size of B.C. to absorb the high level of economic burden due to wildfires, and ask what happens when the rising indirect costs of wildfires increase to 10 or 15 per cent of a government’s annual operating budget.

“These are really big, ugly numbers,” Gray said in an interview.


The government is going to have to learn to tell residents and special interest groups that if the don’t like smoke or temporarily blackened landscapes, tough. Either get used to mitigation practices like prescribed burning and forest thinning, or get used to spending your summers smoked out and wondering when your community is going to be evacuated. And governments will have to pony up for that work, as well as for the resources for suppression.
 
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