2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

[Czech_pivo]

Nuke subs are far more complicated then nuclear warheads; I'm sure they already have munitions and delivery platforms capable of it without going to submarines (probably also on conventional submarines).

The nuclear part of submarines is just a big steam engine, after all, it just is a very complex addition to possibly the most complex machine built by mankind.

100% agree. I was thinking more along the 'optics' of it. I think that its easier to get your population 'onside' with the idea of nuclear weapons by pointing to the nuclear submarines and saying, 'we've already got nuclear submarines and we're using them appropriately, we'll do the same with nuclear weapons.'

I'd say that besides Canadians being the cheapest people on earth and what would be our balking at the costs associate with Canada having nuclear submarines, that Canadians somehow believe that having nuclear submarines means that we have 'nuclear weapons' somehow. They are unable to separate the distinction between two vastly different things.

 

[Navy_Pete]

100% agree. I was thinking more along the 'optics' of it. I think that its easier to get your population 'onside' with the idea of nuclear weapons by pointing to the nuclear submarines and saying, 'we've already got nuclear submarines and we're using them appropriately, we'll do the same with nuclear weapons.'

I'd say that besides Canadians being the cheapest people on earth and what would be our balking at the costs associate with Canada having nuclear submarines, that Canadians somehow believe that having nuclear submarines means that we have 'nuclear weapons' somehow. They are unable to separate the distinction between two vastly different things.

A lot of the activists treat nuclear ships/submarines as a 'nuclear weapon system' even if it has all conventional weapons, which is stupid for a number of reasons.

In reality we've had weapon platforms capable of deploying nuclear weapons for a long time, we just don't have the actual warheads, bombs etc, and with NPT committed to not getting them. Maybe time to reconsider that though, especially as we don't need ICBM range.

 

[Altair]

A lot of the activists treat nuclear ships/submarines as a 'nuclear weapon system' even if it has all conventional weapons, which is stupid for a number of reasons.

In reality we've had weapon platforms capable of deploying nuclear weapons for a long time, we just don't have the actual warheads, bombs etc, and with NPT committed to not getting them. Maybe time to reconsider that though, especially as we don't need ICBM range.

If Germany and or Poland decide to make a dash for it, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't join them.

 

[YZT580]

If Germany and or Poland decide to make a dash for it, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't join them.

Sadly, be prepared to be disappointed. Quebec would never allow it.

 

[Altair]

Sadly, be prepared to be disappointed. Quebec would never allow it.

Quebec of yesteryear maybe.

It's 2026.