3 OPP Officers Shot-May 11th/ 2023

[Bruce Monkhouse]

It's very good, it adds another layer of transparency and accountability. They are going to be widespread in any industry or occupation with a high risk to the public.

They are very very good for showing the civilian oversight folks who have never done the job, but get to be judges on how it was done, the actual threat and the reason for the force used.

The very first video of a training activation my team did even had me thinking after watching it 'why didn't we just pepperball the living crap out of this guy?' instead of going in.
So better for justification then a bunch of written words on a paper.....

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

They are very very good for showing the civilian oversight folks who have never done the job, but get to be judges on how it was done, the actual threat and the reason for the force used.

The very first video of a training activation my team did even had me thinking after watching it 'why didn't we just pepperball the living crap out of this guy?' instead of going in.
So better for justification then a bunch of written words on a paper.....

We have inward and outward facing cameras with audio as well now. Transport Canada has already come down hard on a few people for things. It's a new World out there and your actions will be scrutinized.

 

[Haggis]

If I were shooting actual home invaders through walls then shot at them as they ran away into the street, I don’t think I’d be getting off…

I think so as well, you don't fire 17 rds in multiple directions and call that self-defence. He clearly had intent to shoot whoever he thought had entered his house. The self-defence argument becomes even weaker once he started shooting out the window at the "threat" that had retreated from the house.

There was a case not too long ago where a guy fired on a fleeing home invader, killing him, and was convicted of murder. I'll try to find it.

The way I read the story, he fired nine rounds through the wall, then fired another 8 rounds out the window at the other Officers who took cover behind their cruisers. He only went in the hallway after firing through the wall and out the window.

Most OPP cruisers in this area are marked. Hard to misidentify them.

Sounds like he probably had a high capacity mag, probably had the weapon improperly stored, and also had ammunition and bombed up Mags readily available.

No mention of the rifle's calibre in the article, but if it was a .22 there's no mag capacity limit (yet) and it could explain both the rate of fire and why the second officer hit in the vest didn't suffer a penetrating gunshot injury from a rifle.

Agreed on the improper storage possibility, though. Haven't seen anything on that charge being laid.

 

[lenaitch]

It's very good, it adds another layer of transparency and accountability. They are going to be widespread in any industry or occupation with a high risk to the public.

They are also gaining traction in other fields.

More Loblaw employees to wear body cameras across Canada, company says | Globalnews.ca

More Loblaw employees across the country will be wearing body cameras as the company is expanding its pilot project to more provinces.

globalnews.ca

Huh, you’re right, I hadn’t thought of that.

I see body worn cameras as a very good thing for the profession.

They are still being rolled out as we speak.

 

[OldSolduer]

We have inward and outward facing cameras with audio as well now. Transport Canada has already come down hard on a few people for things. It's a new World out there and your actions will be scrutinized.

Scrutinized so the lowest person on the pay scale gets the blame.

That is the way it is here in my current line of work.

 

[mariomike]

They are also gaining traction in other fields.

Good for police.

Can't see them being appreciated by our customers in their homes.
Especially when they are naked, partiality clothed, in the bathroom, extremely embarrassed, etc.

Glad my professional time was in the Old World.

 

[Eaglelord17]

There was a case not too long ago where a guy fired on a fleeing home invader, killing him, and was convicted of murder. I'll try to find it.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2931936

 

[Haggis]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2931936

Very similar circumstances, but the one I was thinking of was more recent.