A Deeply Fractured US

[dapaterson]

What in the heck is he talking about? Where does he imagine he has any say in this?

I'm glad that the republicans are the party of free markets.

 

[brihard]

This is just wickedly delusional.

 

[Navy_Pete]

This meme is way too relatable lately.

 

[ModlrMike]

"America is the only country in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval called civilization." attributed to French statesman Georges Clemenceau

 

[daftandbarmy]

"America is the only country in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval called civilization." attributed to French statesman Georges Clemenceau

“America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.”

- Oscar Wilde

And one from a Yank...

"The modern patriotism, the true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the Nation all the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."

- Mark Twain

 

[Halifax Tar]

"The modern patriotism, the true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the Nation all the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."

- Mark Twain

I like that.

 

[OldSolduer]

"The modern patriotism, the true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the Nation all the time, loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."

- Mark Twain

This

 

[Halifax Tar]

It is almost impossible to make any sense out of the amounts which might be going to fraudulent daycares, which could range from $100M to several billion. It's not even clear how many are genuinely empty shells and how many are actually legit; the quality of exposes isn't high and they generate a lot of heat and noise.

What is clear is that every few weeks another rock is kicked over and people claim to find some kind of fraud or use of public funding against American interests, and often claim that some of the money is being funneled back into supporting Democrats. The rage on the right continues to increase, as does the desperation of people who can see money flows being choked off in bits and pieces - either righteously because there was misuse, or merely because donors disapprove.

The idea of the pigs in Orwell's "Animal Farm" was not wholly contrived.

I had read somewhere that the total amount of suspected fraud committed in this scandal is more than the GDP of Somalia...

Which was $12.94 Billion last year...

 

[Altair]

Oh no, god forbid there's a potential daycare scandal, it's totally worth destroying NATO to prevent that from happening!

Some of the defences from the pro-Trump crowd are getting really wild. This is like classic Russian bot level stuff now, LOL.

NATO, NAFTA,global trade wars, selling Ukraine out to Russia, abandoning Taiwan, all worth it to keep those naughty daycare fraud people away from power.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Oh no, god forbid there's a potential daycare scandal, it's totally worth destroying NATO to prevent that from happening!

Why is addressing US tax payers being defrauded billions of dollars (money intended for children's care) going to destroy NATO?

 

[Quirky]

Oh no, god forbid there's a potential daycare scandal, it's totally worth destroying NATO to prevent that from happening!

Some of the defences from the pro-Trump crowd are getting really wild. This is like classic Russian bot level stuff now, LOL.

Only people like you would justify a billion dollar scandal and somehow link it to “destroying NATO”. More emotional responses to Orangeman.

 

[Brad Sallows]

From the perspective of "deeply fractured US", if scandal in Minnesota were being blown open right now with Walz as VP, the fracture would not be getting smaller.

I can't easily find a choice to prefer between a self-dealing president - with or without a foundation or a family business - and a self-dealing political party.

Realists acknowledge the need for beak-wetting in political money streams, but how much is tolerable?

 

[Remius]

Only people like you would justify a billion dollar scandal and somehow link it to “destroying NATO”. More emotional responses to Orangeman.

Um, you went on about it, somehow managed to link the LPC to it and mentioned avoiding a catastrophic disaster with Harris and Waltz.

Tell us YOU are being emotional without telling us. Then make that same accusation. LOL.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Think of all the time they would've spent golfing

At clubs they owned ....

 

[Mills Bomb]

Only people like you would justify a billion dollar scandal and somehow link it to “destroying NATO”. More emotional responses to Orangeman.

Let's fast forward to the part where you and the normal MAGA crowd go off on a rant about TDS, or whatever the latest MAGA insults are.

It's very interesting that there's no way to see your profile, probably because a short look at your posting history will show it's all just pro-Trump MAGA junk. It's almost like you have one purpose here.

There's a few accounts here who are either drinking the cool-aid hard (And may as well just admit it) or are legitimately here just to pump-up Trump.

 

[Jarnhamar]

There's a few accounts here who are either drinking the cool-aid hard (And may as well just admit it) or are legitimately here just to pump-up Trump.

Names? Always good to keep tabs on this stuff.

 

[Mills Bomb]

Names? Always good to keep tabs on this stuff.

I'm just a casual visitor, so I don't claim to know every post of every user, or anywhere close (That would be an insane amount of effort, LOL) but it certainly seems some members like Quirky (And a few others who are pretty obvious) like to go hard on justifying everything Trump does. Am I missing the full picture? Perhaps. It's just what I noticed the odd time I catch up on what's being posted here, and I do enjoy a lot of the content as it's an easy place to catch up on some of the news.

I've asked these members several times if they are die-hard MAGA / Trump supporters and all I've gotten in return is insults, and no evidence to suggest otherwise. I would assume since no reply when asked has ever suggested otherwise, they indeed are.

You can't view their profiles, so it's not like you can check to see if they've ever had other views. It's just an observation, after all this is just an open chat. No disrespect intended - and if they are legitimately pro-MAGA pro-Trump Canadians, their opinion is respected. I'm just pointing out it sure feels like they are an echo chamber of the latest MAGA views, which I think is very fair point and fair response to their posts.

Alternatively, if I was some hard left LPC / Pro-JT echo chamber, I would say it would be pretty fair to call that out as well (Not that case).

 

[Jarnhamar]

Thanks Mills Bomb. It's wise to keep track of sides for the coming invasion.

Previously you said:

It's very interesting that there's no way to see your profile, probably because a short look at your posting history will show it's all just pro-Trump MAGA junk.

Out of curiosity, are you aware your profile is also locked up and your posting history is hidden?

 

[brihard]

I'm just a casual visitor, so I don't claim to know every post of every user, or anywhere close (That would be an insane amount of effort, LOL) but it certainly seems some members like Quirky (And a few others who are pretty obvious) like to go hard on justifying everything Trump does. Am I missing the full picture? Perhaps. It's just what I noticed the odd time I catch up on what's being posted here, and I do enjoy a lot of the content as it's an easy place to catch up on some of the news.

I've asked these members several times if they are die-hard MAGA / Trump supporters and all I've gotten in return is insults, and no evidence to suggest otherwise. I would assume since no reply when asked has ever suggested otherwise, they indeed are.

You can't view their profiles, so it's not like you can check to see if they've ever had other views. It's just an observation, after all this is just an open chat. No disrespect intended - and if they are legitimately pro-MAGA pro-Trump Canadians, their opinion is respected. I'm just pointing out it sure feels like they are an echo chamber of the latest MAGA views, which I think is very fair point and fair response to their posts.

Alternatively, if I was some hard left LPC / Pro-JT echo chamber, I would say it would be pretty fair to call that out as well (Not that case).

Quirky is a serving CAF member. He’s said enough about himself that attaching a name to him would be super easy for a few members here if anyone cared to, but there’s no reason to. He has spoken at length on other subjects within his scope- fixing fighter jets, fighter jet stuff in general… There’s no need to fear he’s not an authentic CAF member, whatever one may think of his views as expressed on this site.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I'm just a casual visitor, so I don't claim to know every post of every user, or anywhere close (That would be an insane amount of effort, LOL)

Use Search (upper right) with whatever content you choose, and the username filter.