A Deeply Fractured US

[RangerRay]

A while ago, I listened to a podcast interview with Tom Ridge, the first Secretary of Homeland Security. He was saying that in his opinion, DHS should have been disbanded 10 years ago or so

 

[Fishbone Jones]

The Nazi had a better tailor?

Hugo Boss actually.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

See my reply above of not trusting a word coming out of anyone connected to the Trump administration.

Or the Jill Biden administration. Nobody was complaining when illegal aliens were raping and murdering young girls and women all over the States. They were innocent American women too, depending on the government to keep them safe.
Or the Trudeau/ Carney clan. Carney has a pretty good record of lying to Canadians almost daily. Trudeau goes without saying.
Or Starmer.
Or Ping.
Or Macron.
Or just about most parties and politicians worldwide.

All are suspect and none can be trusted.

 

[Lumber]

Nobody was complaining when illegal aliens were raping and murdering young girls and women all over the States.

Put up, or shut up. Absolutely everyone and anyone was complaining about illegal aliens, or anyone for that matter, raping and murdering girls and women.

Also, are you physically incapable of not bringing up Carney and the liberals every time your fingers hit the keyboard? This is thread about the US and the current discussion is about ICE.

 

[Altair]

Put up, or shut up. Absolutely everyone and anyone was complaining about illegal aliens, or anyone for that matter, raping and murdering girls and women.

Also, are you physically incapable of not bringing up Carney and the liberals every time your fingers hit the keyboard? This is thread about the US and the current discussion is about ICE.

Trudeau is part of the Illuminati and thus part of a global cabal thus is possible to be brought up in any topic that involves earth.

 

[brihard]

“Internal bleeding”… So, like a bruise? Cause it sounds and looks like maybe a bruise.

Him still being off work is no surprise. A period of administrative leave is typical after killing someone.

 

[brihard]

Breaking: Not much info yet but there’s been another shooting involving federal officers in Minneapolis, reportedly in an immigration enforcement operation. At least one person shot and wounded; specific agency not identified.

Tons of rumours flying on this one, I recommend giving this at least til the morning to firm up.

Local news coverage: https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426

 

[Furniture]

Joe Rogan recently called them the G word. That’s telling.

Joe Rogan was pretty Left, before the Left went extra hard on speech and such....Just like Bill Maher.

The only people who think the way ICE is acting is correct are hard MAGA folks, and instigators.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Put up, or shut up. Absolutely everyone and anyone was complaining about illegal aliens, or anyone for that matter, raping and murdering girls and women.

Also, are you physically incapable of not bringing up Carney and the liberals every time your fingers hit the keyboard? This is thread about the US and the current discussion is about ICE.

When I break a rule, the Mods a very good at informing me. Taking extraneous crap from the Peanut Gallery is not in my wheelhouse.

You don't watch much US news or committee hearings do you?

Liberals are almost as much a threat to Canada as Trump. Liberals are a huge part of Canada's problems.

Comparisons and opinions. Don't like it, don't read.

Under the heading of "Fundamental Freedoms" the section states:

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

(a) freedom of conscience and religion;

(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and

(d) freedom of association.

You have yourself a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious evening.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

The only people who think the way ICE is acting is correct are hard MAGA folks, and instigators.

He was elected on his mandate. His mandate includes deportation. His mandate was approved of by 77.3 million voters.

Not an endorsement or otherwise. Just stats.

 

[Furniture]

He was elected on his mandate. His mandate includes deportation. His mandate was approved of by 77.3 million voters.

Not an endorsement or otherwise. Just stats.

Deportation can be done without resorting to NKVD style raids...

Nobody is arguing that not enforcing immigration rules is good. People are arguing that the manner in which ICE is conducting the deportations is bad.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I’m wondering how many ICE agents are starting to have second thoughts about their career choice. Everybody hating you and being screamed at all day has to wear on the psyche after a while.

Close to Zero…

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Deportation can be done without resorting to NKVD style raids...

Nobody is arguing that not enforcing immigration rules is good. People are arguing that the manner in which ICE is conducting the deportations is bad.

I have access to more US television than Canadian. I watch more US politics than Canadian. Get away from the MSM, most of which use exactly the same identical words and phrasing when reporting. They are in a leftist, self destructive TDS bubble. I've seen lots of local stations talk to people outside the anti ICE, ANTIFA, BLM and paid professional rioters and instigators. Asked if they agree with trump, would vote for him again and the current riots, most state yes, yes and jail them for life. Percentages? IDK, but from observing, it's still a substantial number. Most out of the way, uninvolved citizens hate the rioters and what they are doing to their lives.

I'm not in support for any one side, just trying to add some context to the other side of the coin. Which up til now, has been pretty one sided.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

“Internal bleeding”… So, like a bruise? Cause it sounds and looks like maybe a bruise.

Him still being off work is no surprise. A period of administrative leave is typical after killing someone.

Or when you are hiding and protecting your family from death threats.

 

[brihard]

Or when you are hiding and protecting your family from death threats.

Or the completely typical administrative leave after killing someone.

If there’s a resultant protective concern for him or his family, that kind of protective work isn’t left to the involved officer.

 

[Good2Golf]

Or when you are hiding and protecting your family from death threats.

Unlike Minnesota Speaker of the House, Rep(D) Melissa Hortman and her husband.

 

[Brad Sallows]

He was elected on his mandate. His mandate includes deportation. His mandate was approved of by 77.3 million voters.

His mandate includes mass deportation.

Deportation can be done without resorting to NKVD style raids...

Nobody is arguing that not enforcing immigration rules is good. People are arguing that the manner in which ICE is conducting the deportations is bad.

Mass deportation cannot be done by following all the time-consuming expensive processes designed, in part, to make it time-consuming and expensive.

I've written before about the imbalance between what it takes to allow mass illegal immigration (essentially: do nothing to prevent it), and what it takes to undo it. Something had to give. Ideological foes have chosen to fight every battle, to nullify federal law in the states and cities they mostly control, and to go to the mattresses to protect the most unsympathetic (violent, criminal) people illegally in the country. No compromises offered; result: challenge accepted. The status quo of "we can let in 2 million people a year when we have the presidency, and you can only deport a few tens of thousands if you stick to the system during your turn", is untenable.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Or the completely typical administrative leave after killing someone.

If there’s a resultant protective concern for him or his family, that kind of protective work isn’t left to the involved officer.

I wasn't arguing bri, just expanding. I know there is mandated leave after a signifigant event. I also know he is not co-ordinating his family/own protection

I jest
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