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ICE will be disbanded the second there is a Democrat as president
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The next day, another federal agency will need to continue enforcing customs and immigration law. There will not be some massive pool of interested and available non-ICE people to do the job.
Meaningful reform is going to involve reversing a massive shift in mentality and attitude in a portion of America’s federal law enforcement. That’s not a matter of just shutting down an agency whose core functions still have to be carried out.
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"Nearly 8 in 10 respondents to the survey who are registered Democrats support abolishing ICE, with 47 percent of independents and 14 percent of Republicans in favor of shuttering the agency."
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www.nbcnews.com
EDIT: I knew that encounter described in the article sounded familiar, here's an actual video.
Immigration officers around Minneapolis are approaching people and demanding proof that they’re U.S. citizens
U.S. citizens who are out walking or standing in public are not required to provide documentation or provide identification, one legal expert says.
www.nbcnews.com
EDIT: I knew that encounter described in the article sounded familiar, here's an actual video.
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It’s supposed to work like that, yeah…
I really hope once this term is over, that the United States take a long hard look at their Consistution, now that they have seen the President do many things that most people never thought would happen. The Office of the President needs to face stronger constraints, or the role needs to be diminished. Perhaps making the role of the President a more ceromonal role and transfer most of his powers to Congress, where the majority leader can esstially act as a Prime Minister.
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I don't know. Lots of those ICE dipshits really seem to love the power they have. Chances are they won't want to give that up too easily.
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No expert on US governance but I'm not sure the fault lies in the Constitution but rather, the congressional powers that it has devolved over the years to the Executive, for whatever reason. On the other hand, no amount of division of power will cure one of the legs of the stool sitting on its hands.
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Arguably this is the exact moment 2A was written for.
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Which majority leader? House or Senate?
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Re-read the Declaration of Independence. The bar for justifying armed revolt is pretty high. Squabbles over policy ain't in it.
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Before one gets to 2A one would think that Congress would use it's funding power and law making powers to strengthen and give effect to the constraints that the constitution already places on the Feds domestically. They've already had one civil war to determine where the line between state and federal power resides. It was highly destructive. It's unfortunate that so many of them don't read, much less learn from, history.
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Do you think what is happening now in America are just policy squabbles?
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Yes. Examples: lax versus tight immigration enforcement; degrees of tolerance for fraudulent claims on government welfare programs; various sub-themes of identity politics (affirmative action, gender identity); protectionism vs free trade; street crime. The previous administration leaned hard in the directions it wanted to go, and this administration is leaning hard in other directions. State and local governments pull in different directions according to their general Democratic or Republican leanings as well.
Progressives grew accustomed to a conservative establishment that didn't push back very hard on what was almost a one-way ratchet. That is the biggest change.
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Interesting. Do you feel that a pendulumic swing to act even beyond existing policies is acceptable in the administrative transition from focusing on one group of extant policies towards others?
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"Existing policies". Very little binds one administration to maintain the policies of its predecessor. Which is a "pendulumic swing" - a policy that amounts to nullification of federal law, or one that enforces it?
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Congress needs to grow some balls and get a grip on the office of the President.
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