A Deeply Fractured US
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Worth noting he actually had two black gentleman step in and escort him safely out of the area to prevent this being used as a point of escalation by ICE, and all things consdiered he didn't get much more than yelled and and shoved a round a bit. Someone did claim his chest rig as a trophy though.
Didn't stop the grifter from crying about non existant injuries and setting up a go fund me for medical bills though.
HavokFour
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Jake Lang
He forgot his trusty baseball bat I guess.
Here he is on January 6, 2021 assaulting officers.
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So physically assaulting and stealing from people is ok, so long as they don't agree with your politics?
The guy is a raging idiot, but getting swarmed and assaulted by people isn't really an acceptable response to his douchbaggery. It just adds more escalation to a situation that needs a lot less escalation.
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By mobbing him the crowd gave him exactly what he wanted - escalation, martyrdom and a cash flow for all of eternity. Political violence begets political violence.
That said, I cant say I feel too bad for a Nazi degenerate. Im surprised nobody has beaten the shit outta his punkass already. Takes a certain kinda scummer to throw a sieg heil outside of a Jewish organization.
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I bet he had a pre-condition before this and this is how he'll be able to pay for it......
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I'm not emotionally involved enough to support people beating up other people because they "look like" yet another group of people. Sorry.
Oh come now. That never happened right?
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100% agree with the bolded part.
My issue is, people seem to revel in "punching Nazis", but are appalled when it goes the other way. Normalizing violent responses to people being assholes swings both ways, and the MAGA crazies aren't the only or even necessarily the worst crazies.
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In the context of what he was trying to provoke it was remarkably restrained, especially someone wandering around doing Nazi salutes. I've been pushed about more getting on and off public transit then what he got FFS. I am okay though with normalizing punching out actual Nazis though, but it's also extremely easy for that to escalate very quickly, or someone to fall down awkwardly and get killed by hitting their head, so they are better people than I am.
If someone is yelling in your face and saying hateful things punching them is always assault, but an understandable human response. But he didn't even get punched in the face, so lets not pretend people didn't show huge restraint, when a reasonable expectation for going into a crowd of angry people to provoke them like that is getting knocked down and kicked about by a mob.
Especially given the context of ICE detaining and beating on random people on the street, going door to door and all the other insane things they are doing though, this is really does hugely differentiate the two sides. The fact that they are doing it masked seems to show they know they are in the wrong, but are empowered to do it anyway by a small minority of lunatics warping all safeguards and balances, so if it doesn't get checked by the system won't be surprised if it severely escalates.
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The moment that they're in your face yelling at you and just a fleck of spit lands on you, they've assaulted you and punching them ugly Nazi mug is self defense.
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Another US Citizen, and more proof they're just trying to fill quotas and don't have a clue who they're grabbing.
St. Paul Mayor Kaohly Her ‘livid’ after ICE wrongly targets family friend, escorts him undressed into cold
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How exactly are they breaking into people's houses without a warrant, and then not even giving someone a minute to get dressed?
Not just shit at their jobs, while breaking the law, but a bunch of heartless pricks.
Waiting for someone to invoke some kind of castle defence on a warrantless home invasion.
Not just shit at their jobs, while breaking the law, but a bunch of heartless pricks.
Waiting for someone to invoke some kind of castle defence on a warrantless home invasion.
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So polling in the USA shows people don't agree with the Renee Good shooting, 50 percent opposed compared to 35 percent for, but independents also not liking it.
So Trump has tried to clearly soften his tone on the Renee good shooting.
So Trump has tried to clearly soften his tone on the Renee good shooting.
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It’s only a matter of time before ICE hits the wrong house and dude opens up on them.
That would be horrible for everyone since that will give Trump the pretext to send in Federal Troops.
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Which is entirely the intent.
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The shot heard 'round the world ?
I feel like that powder keg is just looking for a spark right now...
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There is a quiet rage building up in Minnesota. When this type of guy decides to go and confront ICE then something has changed.
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i remain utterly shocked that it hasnt. Unless i missed it? Maybe too urban and liberal an area? I know for a fact if someone tried some sort of barely knocking, no warrant , barely id'd on a couple of my neighbours that i wouldnt have to feed the pigs for a week
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