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Active Shooter / Hostile Event ( ASHE ) prevention / response

Unfortunately based on other video I’ve seen. One of the SPVM officers is definitely dead.

Shooter was dressed in camo and looked to be wearing some sort of webbing. Semi auto long gun. The video of the shooter reloading appears to show him shooting one of the officers; I’m pretty sure it’s the same officer seen clearly deceased in another video. I have no info yet on a second injured officer. Maybe the guy who was exchanging fire with and stopped the shooter at the end.

Female officer that was taking cover behind the planter is in critical condition. The deceased is indeed the officer shown in front of the parked white car.

The footage is really hard to watch and especially to listen to as a warning to those that haven't, I also wont be linking to it.

EDIT: The other reason is because one angle of footage is being used by a particular group to attack the female officer.

 
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Le Presse is reporting the shooter called police him self, then opened fire on the officers responding. If true this was a deliberate ambush

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Le Presse is reporting the shooter called police him self, then opened fire on the officers responding. If true this was a deliberate ambush

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Rumors swirling that a manifesto was sent to press by the shooter as well.

EDIT: From the TVA live coverage.


13 h 17

Un suspect avait préparé un manifeste; l'hypothèse du guet-apens privilégiée​

Un suspect dans cette fusillade a préparé un manifeste avant d'ouvrir le feu, selon nos informations.

Ce document aurait été envoyé à différents médias.

Toujours selon nos informations, les policiers privilégieraient l'hypothèse du guet-apens tendu afin d'attirer des policiers sur place.

Le motif ayant poussé cet individu à commettre ces gestes demeure inconnu.
 
I read that as well.
The shooter stopping to reload so frequently into his SKS, probably saved a lot of lives.
 
Apparently two Mounties were wounded in Melville, Sask.

Yes. Both quite badly from what I hear.

Rumors swirling that a manifesto was sent to press by the shooter as well.

EDIT: From the TVA live coverage.

Lots of bad info out, some of which I know is false, so I’ll pipe down while we wait for official confirmation of some stuff… I’ll just say there’s gonna be a lot of social media rage baiting and speculation on this one that’s highly unlikely to survive scrutiny in a few more days. Good time for everyone to remember the 48 hour rule.
 
Names of the dead have been released.

Const. Mohamed Lamine Benredouane
Michael Moshe Mizrahi

 
Unfortunately what is pretty certain from the video is that the female officer shot the civilian. I’m sure there will be alot of discussion revolving around her training, her experience and her situational awareness. Quite frankly from what I saw, I can’t blame her….it appears to be a confluence of bad luck, wrong place wrong time during a horrific situation IMHO.
 
Unfortunately what is pretty certain from the video is that the female officer shot the civilian. I’m sure there will be alot of discussion revolving around her training, her experience and her situational awareness. Quite frankly from what I saw, I can’t blame her….it appears to be a confluence of bad luck, wrong place wrong time during a horrific situation IMHO.
Agreed, we have a civilian who comes from the same direction as the shooter just went, approach the officer from her blind spot, then somehow got her attention pretty much right up at her. Im sure many of us would of reacted the same. Logic would dictate not hanging around as a civilian in a active shooter situation.
 
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I’d suggest it’s probably about half the population that would have done the same thing if that is the case. You can’t train that out of people. No matter what people think their own performance would be. Most people are freezers or flinchers under that stress.

It was too fast and too much stress too close. Another five or ten seconds and she may have had some better awareness- but it’s hard to say.
 
Shooter is being identified as being from Lethbridge, Alberta, dont usually see someone cross a continent to commit an act like this
 
Unfortunately what is pretty certain from the video is that the female officer shot the civilian. I’m sure there will be alot of discussion revolving around her training, her experience and her situational awareness. Quite frankly from what I saw, I can’t blame her….it appears to be a confluence of bad luck, wrong place wrong time during a horrific situation IMHO.
So, I don’t feel able or equipped to pass judgment on her. I won’t.

Here’s what I can see about how it went down, and then some considerations they come to mind. I’m doing this as dispassionately and objectively as I can, I’ll just ask for a bit of understanding that I’m doing this by going frame by frame of a cop getting murdered and J believe another grievously wounded, and a civilian killed.

This looks like it took place at 6895 Boulevard de Décarie, at the south corner of the building at the intersection of Décarie and Av. de Courtrai. Everything is ‘angled’ on a map; Décarie runs northwest to southeast; Courtrai perpendicular to that.

It’s a very new development; Décarie is a wide boulevard, de Courtrai is a mixed use urban canyon with ground level storefronts and many stories of offices, hotels etc stacked above. At street level there are large columns and planters that would serve as cover, there are cars and pedestrians, and all the movement that comes with that.


The two officers appear to have been first on scene responding to a gun call. They have pistols and their soft vests. I see no long guns or hard plates. I don’t know what their training or equipment is.

As the most graphic videos open, the officers appear to be behind the northwest face of a planter/column supporting the building facade. This would be hard cover for south and east, but from the northeast they were in enfilade. As best as I can tell they were moving northeast to where the incident was probably initially reported.

The shooter was to their east maybe 50-100m. They likely did not have line of sight. I suspect he didn’t either. He was running west and ended up in the same patch of space they were advancing in. Effectively a ‘meeting engagement’. At a distance of 10-15m he saw them and opened fire with what looks like an SKS, and he moved to cover as he engaged. They were in enfilade to him. They have to retreat a couple meters to gain cover. They appear to have both scrambled back to cover. The male officer was hit, I think catastrophically. He crawled a few meters farther south from his hover and I believe died there. It looks like he bled out very quickly. As this happened I believe the civilian was within a few meters of the officer. Going frame by frame I can only guess he was either concealed from view behind the pillar, or possibly he emerged from a store entrance during these seconds.

I don’t know if the female officer was hit at that point or if either officer fired back. She ended up behind cover on the southwest facing of the planter. The threat at this point was northeast within ten meters. She had just been shot at with a long gun, probably for the first time in her life. The noise in that space would have been enormous. Probably she’s never fired pistol without ear protection before either. She likely saw the shooter, very close and advancing in her direction. She saw her partner shot and, though she likely didn’t know yet, killed. She likely did not see the shooter duck back behind cover himself. Her last view was probably him moving on her shooting. Very likely she didn’t get a particularly good view of the shooter; given the male officer took rounds she was probably ‘second in the stack’.

Within a second or two of this, as she has a knee behind cover, the civilian advances from exactly the direction of the shooter, rounding the corner in tight basically right on top of her. The civilian didn’t proceed past her; he looks to have paused and turned to face her at a distance of about a foot (although he was probably similarly moving to cover). He was standing adjacent to and above her, facing her way. At that point in a fraction of a second it looks like she made a decision to shoot and did so. However I cannot rule out that the civilian was shot by the shooter. The shooter could similarly have emerged from cover, seen a male standing in dark clothing ten meters away, and shot. Forensic examination will easily determine that.

She then moved south, east, and ran northeast, possibly either to new cover or possibly to try to flank the shooter in turn. She would likely not have been able to see that in that time the shooter himself was moving southwest to flank her in her cover. A couple seconds later the shooter emerged exactly where it appears she had just shot the civilian. He was gun up and specifically hunting her and I believe he saw her moving from her cover-her heel was visible as he rounded the corner.

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The shooter then looks to aim in the direction she fled and fires four rounds, probably at her back. In that time she can’t have made it more than a couple tens of meters. I don’t know if she’s the seriously wounded officer but I suspect she is.

After he fires four rounds at her, someone engages him with some FANTASTIC disciplined fire. 13 rounds in a steady, calm cadence, I suspect someone had him at quite a distance and was ‘shooting for score’. He did not appear to return fire. At some point someone made those shots count and the shooter fell there. All three deceased were within meters of each other.

The officer that appears to have shot a civilian? If in fact she did, I can’t say with all my training and experience that in that moment and in those circumstances I might not have perceived a threat and engaged too. I like to hope I wouldn’t have, but I don’t know. She was on the losing side of a two way range, pistol versus rifle, probably her first, and it wasn’t an incidental encounter- he was hunting police and it seems possible this was a contrived ambush. Worst case scenario for all the psychology and physiology of a fight stuff.

As a firearms instructor and active shooter instructor, had this been a training scenario there’s lots that could be dispassionately critiqued… But I can’t and won’t chirp from the cheap seats on a real event and not knowing her training and experience. And, most critically, we don’t have her own articulation of what she saw, heard, perceived, thought, feared, decided and did.

A terrible, terrible event. I hope she can recover both physically and mentally from this, and my thoughts are with the families of all involved.
 
Apparently wanted to target the owners of Pornhub in a building nearby.
I’m waiting to see if that firms up, but according to a Google search it does seem that the corporate offices for Aylo, the parent company of Pornhub, Brazzers, and a few others, are on the sixth floor of that very building. If that were to prove to be a coincidence that would be absolutely wild to me given the alleged contents of his purported manifesto.
 
So, I don’t feel able or equipped to pass judgment on her. I won’t.

Here’s what I can see about how it went down, and then some considerations they come to mind. I’m doing this as dispassionately and objectively as I can, I’ll just ask for a bit of understanding that I’m doing this by going frame by frame of a cop getting murdered and J believe another grievously wounded, and a civilian killed.

This looks like it took place at 6895 Boulevard de Décarie, at the south corner of the building at the intersection of Décarie and Av. de Courtrai. Everything is ‘angled’ on a map; Décarie runs northwest to southeast; Courtrai perpendicular to that.

It’s a very new development; Décarie is a wide boulevard, de Courtrai is a mixed use urban canyon with ground level storefronts and many stories of offices, hotels etc stacked above. At street level there are large columns and planters that would serve as cover, there are cars and pedestrians, and all the movement that comes with that.


The two officers appear to have been first on scene responding to a gun call. They have pistols and their soft vests. I see no long guns or hard plates. I don’t know what their training or equipment is.

As the most graphic videos open, the officers appear to be behind the northwest face of a planter/column supporting the building facade. This would be hard cover for south and east, but from the northeast they were in enfilade. As best as I can tell they were moving northeast to where the incident was probably initially reported.

The shooter was to their east maybe 50-100m. They likely did not have line of sight. I suspect he didn’t either. He was running west and ended up in the same patch of space they were advancing in. Effectively a ‘meeting engagement’. At a distance of 10-15m he saw them and opened fire with what looks like an SKS, and he moved to cover as he engaged. They were in enfilade to him. They have to retreat a couple meters to gain cover. They appear to have both scrambled back to cover. The male officer was hit, I think catastrophically. He crawled a few meters farther south from his hover and I believe died there. It looks like he bled out very quickly. As this happened I believe the civilian was within a few meters of the officer. Going frame by frame I can only guess he was either concealed from view behind the pillar, or possibly he emerged from a store entrance during these seconds.

I don’t know if the female officer was hit at that point or if either officer fired back. She ended up behind cover on the southwest facing of the planter. The threat at this point was northeast within ten meters. She had just been shot at with a long gun, probably for the first time in her life. The noise in that space would have been enormous. Probably she’s never fired pistol without ear protection before either. She likely saw the shooter, very close and advancing in her direction. She saw her partner shot and, though she likely didn’t know yet, killed. She likely did not see the shooter duck back behind cover himself. Her last view was probably him moving on her shooting. Very likely she didn’t get a particularly good view of the shooter; given the male officer took rounds she was probably ‘second in the stack’.

Within a second or two of this, as she has a knee behind cover, the civilian advances from exactly the direction of the shooter, rounding the corner in tight basically right on top of her. The civilian didn’t proceed past her; he looks to have paused and turned to face her at a distance of about a foot (although he was probably similarly moving to cover). He was standing adjacent to and above her, facing her way. At that point in a fraction of a second it looks like she made a decision to shoot and did so. However I cannot rule out that the civilian was shot by the shooter. The shooter could similarly have emerged from cover, seen a male standing in dark clothing ten meters away, and shot. Forensic examination will easily determine that.

She then moved south, east, and ran northeast, possibly either to new cover or possibly to try to flank the shooter in turn. She would likely not have been able to see that in that time the shooter himself was moving southwest to flank her in her cover. A couple seconds later the shooter emerged exactly where it appears she had just shot the civilian. He was gun up and specifically hunting her and I believe he saw her moving from her cover-her heel was visible as he rounded the corner.

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The shooter then looks to aim in the direction she fled and fires four rounds, probably at her back. In that time she can’t have made it more than a couple tens of meters. I don’t know if she’s the seriously wounded officer but I suspect she is.

After he fires four rounds at her, someone engages him with some FANTASTIC disciplined fire. 13 rounds in a steady, calm cadence, I suspect someone had him at quite a distance and was ‘shooting for score’. He did not appear to return fire. At some point someone made those shots count and the shooter fell there. All three deceased were within meters of each other.

The officer that appears to have shot a civilian? If in fact she did, I can’t say with all my training and experience that in that moment and in those circumstances I might not have perceived a threat and engaged too. I like to hope I wouldn’t have, but I don’t know. She was on the losing side of a two way range, pistol versus rifle, probably her first, and it wasn’t an incidental encounter- he was hunting police and it seems possible this was a contrived ambush. Worst case scenario for all the psychology and physiology of a fight stuff.

As a firearms instructor and active shooter instructor, had this been a training scenario there’s lots that could be dispassionately critiqued… But I can’t and won’t chirp from the cheap seats on a real event and not knowing her training and experience. And, most critically, we don’t have her own articulation of what she saw, heard, perceived, thought, feared, decided and did.

A terrible, terrible event. I hope she can recover both physically and mentally from this, and my thoughts are with the families of all involved.
100% I’m not confident what my own response would have been in that first compressed moment either. Good post.

I’m thankful we have cops that get up and go to these things keeping me and my family safe.
 
100% I’m not confident what my own response would have been in that first compressed moment either. Good post.

I’m thankful we have cops that get up and go to these things keeping me and my family safe.
Yup. They may have known very little save that they were going to a shots fired in a busy urban area. They didn’t wait for more backup, the two of them went in to protect the public with only what little they had.
 
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