All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[QV]

And? @MilEMEO9

Quebec or Alberta have sufficient economic capacity to self support. Quebec leaving would be a structural shock to the country, Alberta leaving would be an economic shock. Canada as a whole would decline without one or the other, but Alberta and Quebec are able to succeed on their own. The trick is how does Canada manage both at the same time without detriment to one or the other?

The easy button is to unleash resource development and export (obviously the world needs it now more than ever). Alberta is happy to earn and Quebec remains happily subsidized.

 

[MilEME09]

And? @MilEMEO9

Quebec or Alberta have sufficient economic capacity to self support. Quebec leaving would be a structural shock to the country, Alberta leaving would be an economic shock. Canada as a whole would decline without one or the other, but Alberta and Quebec are able to succeed on their own. The trick is how does Canada manage both at the same time without detriment to one or the other?

The easy button is to unleash resource development and export (obviously the world needs it now more than ever). Alberta is happy to earn and Quebec remains happily subsidized.

And alberta is at the whims of the boom and bust cycle. If O&G prices crash, that top 20% shrinks heavily, and the other 80% cant make up for it. Its Canada's social safety net the bails people out in those slumps. With such high wealth inequality in AB, if independent the entirety of AB would fall apart thr next oil crash. Remember the price differential can be as high as $30 a barrel for AB depending on market factors. If WTI crashed to $60 for example, WCS would be about $45 or less. It would trigger mass work stoppages and lay offs.

By comparison Quebec bottom 20% is more well off than alberta and not dependent on the cycle of a single resource.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Prowess? Your word, not mine. I was just saying they’re a meaningful economic part of Canada.

Prowess was sarcastic. And meaningful seems like an opinion.

Both are valuable parts of Canada, the sooner we realize and come to peace with us all being equal parts of this country the sooner we can move past this regional garbage, and a build a strong united country.

By comparison Quebec bottom 20% is more well off than alberta and not dependent on the cycle of a single resource.

Really ? Yet Quebec most defiantly relies on transfers to keep its social systems afloat that their bottom 20% needs.

And? @MilEMEO9

Quebec or Alberta have sufficient economic capacity to self support. Quebec leaving would be a structural shock to the country, Alberta leaving would be an economic shock. Canada as a whole would decline without one or the other, but Alberta and Quebec are able to succeed on their own. The trick is how does Canada manage both at the same time without detriment to one or the other?

Alberta would be a combination structural and economic shock. I think an Alberta separation would be a slow death for Canada, Que would be quicker.

Those east of Sask, don't like to admit it but if Alberta separated, and I don't think they will and I don't think the should, they could actually make a go of it alone or happily contribute to the USA. That's not me guaranteeing success, its me saying they have the better of the two possibilities.

Que on the other hand would probably have generations of economic ruin, a steady flow of emigration as economic futures declined, and end up either up coming back, should Canada continue exits as more than just southern Ont, or balkanizing.

 

[brihard]

Prowess was sarcastic. And meaningful seems like an opinion.

20% of an economy including the nation’s largest port on the Atlantic Ocean is meaningful. That’s not opinion.

 

[Halifax Tar]

20% of an economy including the nation’s largest port on the Atlantic Ocean is meaningful. That’s not opinion.

I think its interesting you zone in on meaningful, and feel the need or urge to assert your correct use; and leave out everything else.

You are going to Law school am I correct ? The desired end state its to be lawyer ? I may be way off base, feel free to correct me.