All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[QV]

Only because Smith wants it moot. Forever Canada should get their vote first. A no vote for that doesnt trigger separation, but a yes vote woukd shut down separation. Smith cant have that, she needs separation right now politically to hold onto her own job

Thats why it’s moot. A vote either way does not enable any follow on action. Its pointless. The independence vote can trigger follow on action, and a no vote on that will achieve what forever canada set out to do anyway.

 

[brihard]

Instead of blaming some Albertans for their use of the voter registrations, I would imagine if Elections Canada were doing their jobs, the voter registry would be secured and unobtainable, to those without clearance or legal need.

Elections Alberta administers the provincial voter rolls, and they were released to provincial parties under the provisions of provincial law. The leak of the voter rolls to the Centurion Project is a provincial matter.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Elections Alberta administers the provincial voter rolls, and they were released to provincial parties under the provisions of provincial law. The leak of the voter rolls to the Centurion Project is a provincial matter.

OK, Elections Alberta, mea culpa.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

what does elections canada have to do with a provincial voters list?

See above.

 

[HavokFour]

This is just plain embarrassing for Smith. Like others have said here perhaps it is time for her and the UCP to take a side. Playing stupid and turning a blind eye to the clearly separatist members of the party is a terrible look, because this is exactly the kind of stuff that will continue happening.

The ANDP were correct in going directly to Elections Alberta and the RCMP to report this massive breach of privacy, this crime instead of acting as a babysitter to sweep the UCP's mess under a rug.

Talk about DARVO.

Alberta's Smith says Opposition should have warned her of privacy…

National Newswatch: Canada's most comprehensive site for political news and views.

nationalnewswatch.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

Plenty of similar downplaying when foreign interference concerns came up at the federal level. People are more incensed over it happening when it's not their political camp at ground zero, less when it is.


I'm sure Smith's detractors will have no issue with her bussing in US students to vote for whatever.

Some folks reaction here is 100% just a manifestation of their own political biases. And I suspect regional too.

I continue to maintain that Canada really and truly only exists from Windsor Ont to Rivière-du-Loup. The rest of us should just be happy we get free healthcare.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Let them fight, sure. But within the rules. I doubt mr Julian would let one seven grader smash another seven grader in the face with a rock.

If these folks cannot do their referendum within the confines of the rules, too had for them, they deserve their pathetic little hissy fit thrown out until they can do it properly.

Rules are rules,laws are laws.

Your use of pejoratives speak volumes.

Rules are rules and laws are laws...

Using lawfare to not let this vote happen is not good for unity or democracy. For some reason the left does not understand that you when the pressure gets high you are better off to have a controlled bleed off than a catastrophic release.

 

[Altair]

Your use of pejoratives speak volumes.

Rules are rules and laws are laws...

Using lawfare to not let this vote happen is not good for unity or democracy. For some reason the left does not understand that you when the pressure gets high you are better off to have a controlled bleed off than a catastrophic release.

Meanwhile Quebec has gone 31 years without a referendum and they aren't suffering from any catastrophic release.

I guess Quebec lasts longer.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Meanwhile Quebec has gone 31 years without a referendum and they aren't suffering from any catastrophic release.

I guess Quebec lasts longer.

How many referendums has Que had ? That's provided us with 31 years of peace(ish).

Remember the FLQ ? That's not dealing with the pressure.

 

[Altair]

How many referendums has Que had ? That's provided us with 31 years of peace(ish).

Remember the FLQ ? That's not dealing with the pressure.

Or put another way, in Quebec a premier who isn't a separatist doesnt hold referendum just because.

I've never heard of a CAQ or PLQ leader saying "oh no, there are 25 to 35 percent of the population that are separatists, i had better hold a referendum or else there will be a catastrophic release "

No, CAQ and PLQ premiers tell separatists to get bent, because funny, that's what a federalist does.

Danielle Smith should take notes. You believe Alberta belongs in Canada? Act like it. If the separatists want a referendum, let them go form their own party and try to win an election.

The fact she hasnt done this is pretty transparent. She's a separatist.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The fact she hasnt done this is pretty transparent. She's a separatist.

Sure. We have had separatist premiers before in Canada, and so are a expected 30-40% of her constituents.

And you know what grows that number ? Not addressing it and using lawfare to deny elections.

 

[Altair]

Sure. We have had separatist premiers before in Canada, and so are a expected 30-40% of her constituents.

And you know what grows that number ? Not addressing it and using lawfare to deny elections.

So separatist sentiment grows in Quebec because the CAQ and PLQ refuse to hold referendums?

 

[Halifax Tar]

So separatist sentiment grows in Quebec because the CAQ and PLQ refuse to hold referendums?

Is it growing ? I am not paying attention to the current separatist movement in Que. Que is place I drive through because I have to to get to Ont.

Don't we expect a Que referendum this year sometime ? My understanding is that separatists/francos are being demographically replaced in Que and that movement is reaching a shit of get off the pot moment.

 

[Altair]

Is it growing ?

No.

I am not paying attention to the current separatist movement in Que. Que is place I drive through because I have to to get to Ont.

It shows.

Don't we expect a Que referendum this year sometime ?

No. There is a provincial election.

My understanding is that separatists/francos are being demographically replaced in Que and that movement is reaching a shit of get off the pot moment.

Younger Quebecers are more likely to be supporters of sovereignty.

 

[Halifax Tar]

No.

It shows.

No. There is a provincial election.

Younger Quebecers are more likely to be supporters of sovereignty.

Great so giving some space for some referendums effectively killed that movement. Do we agree ?

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Altair]

Great so giving some space for some referendums effectively killed that movement. Do we agree ?

Sounds like a plan.

No. It didn't. Giving the separists a high bar so they had to earn it made separatism seem not worth the squeeze.

The opposite is happening in Alberta.

Danielle Smith keeps lowering the already low bar.

 

[Halifax Tar]

No. It didn't. Giving the separists a high bar so they had to earn it made separatism seem not worth the squeeze.

The opposite is happening in Alberta.

Danielle Smith keeps lowering the already low bar.

lol Ok man. Well its been nice in this circle with you. Lets now watch and see how this all plays out.

 

[Altair]

lol Ok man. Well its been nice in this circle with you. Lets now watch and see how this all plays out.

Yes, i will love watching the courts throw this out.