Allowances - Post Living Differential (PLD) [MERGED]

[scas]

I know about the original increase, but theres info being passed on about an New increase effective April 1 08. I tried the search function and was able to find anything about this increase.

 

[dapaterson]

Any 01 Apr 08 change to PLD has yet to be officially promulgated.  There will be a CANFORGEN and an update to the CMP Compensation and Benefits website (DWAN) once it's announced.

 

[Ammo]

I was checking CMP's web site and it states:
Updated PLD rates effective 1 July 2007 are contained in the table to CBI 205.45. These rates reflect the new methodology. Where members currently in receipt of PLD will see decreases, transitional measures have been incorporated into a new CBI 205.452. In general, decreases will be phased in over a three-year period. Officers in the rank of captain or above, and non-commissioned members in the rank of warrant officer or above will have decreases phased in starting 1 April 2008. Officers in rank of lieutenant or below, and non-commissioned member in the rank of sergeant or below will have decreases phased in starting 1 April 2009. For Captain (Navy) and Colonel and above living in the National Capital Region (NCR), the new PLD rate for that location will be implemented in full as of 1 April 2008. For details see CBI 205.452.
CBI 205.452 is available on the INTRANET at http://hr.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgcb/cbi/engraph/cbi_chapter-205_e.asp?sidesection=6&section=3. I am sure that it is also available on the internet but I don't have the address right now

 

[PO2FinClk]

Ammo, I believe they are referring to yet to be released amended rates to those you are referencing which were extensively covered in another thread.

 

[resolute]

Greetings All,

I am a 4th year medical student, about to start my family medicine residency in Toronto (I haven't been matched to a particular hospital yet, but am hoping for east-end / Scarborough area).  Obviously, the housing market is quite expensive there, and I am hoping for a 3-bedroom place (my wife and I have one kid and another on the way).

I am torn between living in the Oshawa area (cheaper market) and commuting everyday (not very practical for on-call duties), vs. finding a "cheap" place in a sketchy area in Toronto / Scarborough.

I have looked everywhere (on-line and on this site in particular) but have been unable to find a PLD map for GTA detailing the 5 different "zones" of living expense.  On page 11 of this thread Aerobicrunner posted a link to such a map, but it was an "intranet" link.  Like most students sponsored by the CF, I don't have access to any of the intranet stuff, or a CF computer account.  We must rely on information given to us by our cell clerks / university liaison officers, who are perpetually overworked and aren't always able to respond to our requests in a timely manner.

Is anybody knowledgeable about the Toronto PLD situation?  Obviously, I will need to wait for my posting instruction, etc., before making any financial commitments, but if I know what areas are eligible, I can begin my research ahead of time.

Thanks.

 

[Aerobicrunner]

Unless someone does it before I get to work tommorow, I will see if I can put the map on this thread.

 

[acheo]

I missunderstood your question and posted the PLD's instead.

ALDERGROVE, 207, 155
BARRIE/BORDEN, 87, 65
BRANTFORD, 114, 86
CALGARY, 595, 446
CAMBRIDGE, 85,64
COLD LAKE, 162, 122
CORNERBROOK, 83, 62
EDMONTON, 232, 174
GRAND FALL/WINDSOR, 133, 100
GUELPH, 245, 184
HALIFAX, 374, 281
HAMILTON, 347, 260
KAMLOOPS/KELOWNA, 161, 121
KINGSTON, 16, 12
KITCHENER, 170, 128
LONDON, 46, 34
MONTREAL NORTH SHORE, 495, 371
MONTREAL SOUTH SHORE, 404, 303
NANAIMO, 6, 4
PAGE 3 RCCLHAV6014 UNCLAS
NIAGARA/ST CATHARINES, 174, 131
NORTH BAY, 6, 4
OTTAWA, 196, 147
PETERBOROUGH, 68, 51
QUEBEC CITY, 189, 142
SEPT-ILES, 112, 84
ST JOHNS, 308, 231
ST HYACINTHE, 24, 18
STRATFORD, 207, 155
TORONTO AREA ONE, 1586, 1190
TORONTO AREA TWO, 670, 503
TORONTO AREA THREE, 543, 407
TORONTO AREA FOUR, 1006, 755
TORONTO AREA FIVE, 1377, 1033
VANCOUVER, 696, 522
VICTORIA, 609, 457
WINDSOR, 332, 249

 

[Michael OLeary]

Thank you Acheo, that was posted at reply #183. Now, to answer Resolute's question, can you define the geographical areas for these:

TORONTO AREA ONE, 1586, 1190
TORONTO AREA TWO, 670, 503
TORONTO AREA THREE, 543, 407
TORONTO AREA FOUR, 1006, 755
TORONTO AREA FIVE, 1377, 1033

 

[acheo]

my mistake

 

[exgunnertdo]

There's a link to the map (DWAN only, unfortunately), post 164 on page 11 of this thread. 
Here:  http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/52775/post-647589.html#msg647589

Edit - OK, oops, the person asking the original question had already found that, sorry!  I was responding to the last bit and didn't read the previous posts!

 

[Sub_Guy]

2008/2009 Rates  -------  Still no Comox.....

ALDERGROVE, 418, 314
CALGARY, 711, 533
CAMBRIDGE, 71, 53
COLD LAKE, 319, 239
EDMONTON, 684, 513
GUELPH, 167, 125
HALIFAX, 631, 473
HAMILTON, 414, 311
KAMLOOPS/KELOWNA, 525, 394
KITCHENER, 62, 47
LETHBRIDGE, 234, 176
MEAFORD, 77, 58
MEDICINE HAT, 145, 109
MONTREAL NORTH SHORE, 505, 379
MONTREAL SOUTH SHORE, 376, 282
MOOSE JAW, 284, 213
NANAIMO, 75, 56
PAGE 3 RCCLHAV6004 UNCLAS
QUEBEC CITY/VALCARTIER, 117, 88
RED DEER, 327, 245
REGINA, 62, 47
SASKATOON, 382, 287
SEPT-ILES, 107, 80
ST JOHNS, 149, 112
STRATFORD, 82, 62
TORONTO AREA ONE, 1485, 1114
TORONTO AREA TWO, 506, 380
TORONTO AREA THREE, 522, 392
TORONTO AREA FOUR, 819, 614
TORONTO AREA FIVE, 1167, 875
VANCOUVER, 1083, 812
VICTORIA/ESQUIMALT, 816, 612

 

[MJP]

2008/2009 Rates   -------  Still no Comox.....
EDMONTON, 684, 513

Wow that is quite a large jump just under 200% of the last amount. Not to mention the PLD rates even came out before the beginning of the fiscal year!  Will wonders ever cease.

 

[Gunner98]

Those of us in the Upper Ottawa Valley - North Bay and Petawawa - we don't need no stinkin' handouts... 'cause then we would need somewhere to spend it.

 

[Gunner]

2008/2009 Rates   -------  Still no Comox.....
EDMONTON, 684, 513

Almost makes me wish I stayed in...

 

[scoutfinch]

Am I reading this correctly??  PLD has jumped from $347 to $631 for Halifax for this year?

 

[Pea]

2008/2009 Rates   -------  Still no Comox.....
EDMONTON, 684, 513

Wow, that puts a whole other perspective on possibly being posted to Edmonton! Very nice to see.

 

[NCRCrow]

I Love Halifax! :

 

[JustAnotherZoomie]

Wow, that puts a whole other perspective on possibly being posted to Edmonton! Very nice to see.

Yes, certainly puts a whole 'nother spin on a posting from Halifax to Ottawa, too.

Just out of curiosity, if a Reg F member with >20 yrs service decided to pull the plug and take a Class B reserve position (3 year contract) in their current location, would they retain PLD since they were moved to the area at Crown expense?

 

[Gunner]

JAZ, it's best to ask your OR that question.  I know if you leave the Reg F and go Cl B you can have your final move postponed while you are on Cl B.  If you did that, it would make sense that you would still collect PLD.

 

[Springroll]

Is there a CANFORGEN for these new rates???

*edit for spelling