Andrea Yates Verdict

[Scoobie Newbie]

Not guilty by reason of insanity.

 

[Mike Baker]

I havent been following the news lately, but who is Andrea Yates?

 

[navymich]

I havent been following the news lately, but who is Andrea Yates?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060726.wyatesverd0726/BNStory/International/home

A Texas jury found Andrea Yates not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday in the drowning deaths of her young children in the bathtub of their suburban home.

 

[Mike Baker]

Ohh ok, thats the woman, now I can remember her

 

[chaos75]

Another example of injustice.

She should be drowned herself to the point of unconsciousness so she can experience herself what she did to her kids and then locked away till she dies.  No quiet life at a mental institution and never ever a chance at parole.

 

[Springroll]

I don't agree with the verdict, but I will say that Postpartum Depression can do a number on a woman's mind.

 

[FredDaHead]

I don't agree with the verdict, but I will say that Postpartum Depression can do a number on a woman's mind.

What's next? PMS will become an excuse, too?

 

[TMM]

When you watch what PPD can do to your wife, mum, daughter, sister, girlfriend then you will likley have a different opinion.

 

[GAP]

It can be devastating to individuals and families. Until recently it was not considered to be serious enough to warrant treatment, but finally it is getting to be recognized as a potential life shattering issue.

 

[FredDaHead]

It can be devastating to individuals and families. Until recently it was not considered to be serious enough to warrant treatment, but finally it is getting to be recognized as a potential life shattering issue.

So's depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, and a host of other things. It doesn't excuse violence, especially not killing children.

Abuse of drugs also "does a number" on someone's head in the long term.. Does that mean a drug addict should avoid prison if they kill someone? After all, they have a mental problem, right? Not the same cause, but the same end result.

 

[GAP]

So's depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, and a host of other things. It doesn't excuse violence, especially not killing children.

Abuse of drugs also "does a number" on someones head in the long term.. Does that mean a drug addict should avoid prison if they kill someone? After all, they have a mental problem, right? Not the same cause, but the same end result.

Nobody is making excuses...just a recognition of a generally temporary condition that in the past has been diagnosed as depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, and a host of other things. As to the actual case, I would have been happier if she spent the rest of her life in prison, but given that, if she is any type of "normal" person, she will be paying for the rest of her life.

Ask yourself "if that was me, how would I feel?"

 

[Springroll]

What's next? PMS will become an excuse, too?

Who said PPD was an excuse? If you don't know about PPD, go here.

When you watch what PPD can do to your wife, mum, daughter, sister, girlfriend then you will likley have a different opinion.

I am in total agreement with that!
I watched my mother suffer from it when she delivered my brother (I was 10), my aunt when she had my cousin, and watched as my best friend suffered through it. There was nothing I could really do other than be an ear. With my aunt, it actually was the main cause of her marital breakdown. My uncle and her have since reconciled.

I got lucky and had minor PPD with my first, and none with #2 and #3.

I wish there was a more definitive way to diagnose PPD before it got to far, but sadly it really is based upon the mother recognizing and telling someone about the way she is feeling.

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

She won't be seeing the outside of treatment center for a long time.

 

[TMM]

I wish there was a more definitive way to diagnose PPD before it got to far, but sadly it really is based upon the mother recognizing and telling someone about the way she is feeling.

True, but it is also up to spouse, friends, family to keep watch. Thank God my husband did. Yates had it far worse. And no I am in no way saying slaughtering your children is okay, just trying to get across that if you see your spouse having a rough time of it the last thing you do is keep having kids.

 

[Springroll]

True, but it is also up to spouse, friends, family to keep watch. Thank God my husband did. Yates had it far worse. And no I am in no way saying slaughtering your children is okay, just trying to get across that if you see your spouse having a rough time of it the last thing you do is keep having kids.

I totally agree, but then again, how often do you really listen to your husband? 
;D  Just kidding.

 

[Navy_Blue]

I've been through it with the wife twice.  Told the doctor after the second was born (93% chance of it happening again and worse) that we need to think about what will happen and he ignored me till my wife's head was spinning 360, spitting fire and talking like the devil.   PPD is some heavy heavy crap.   In the Yates case top that with knowing your husband expects you to have babies till the lord disides you've had enough and you might just snap.  This crap happen to allot of people some whom are even in the mental heath field.  They stay in denial till its to late.  A psychologist in TO jumped in front of a subway a few years back with her baby.  None of her family saw it coming either.

 

[TMM]

A psychologist in TO jumped in front of a subway a few years back with her baby.

That is actually one of the incidents that made me realise just how bad I was...and the woman who killed herself and her kids in the car. Thankfully something in me clicked and said that could be me unless I got help. This doesn't discriminate based on profession, status, what have you. It can hit any mother.

The medics on here can go into the full blown details but there is a difference between PPD and a case of the Baby Blues.

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