AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

[FSTO]

I would agree on building more JSS if there wasn't a huge CCG order waiting directly behind it....

Yes, there is that. But is that an insurmountable barrier?

 

[dapaterson]

Lack of long lead items, ballooning cost overruns, lengthy delays from the original schedule...

 

[FSTO]

Lack of long lead items, ballooning cost overruns, lengthy delays from the original schedule...

In 2000, Buck told us there’d be an AOR hull in the water in 5 years.

 

[suffolkowner]

the best time to order an additional one or two AOR was yesterday the next best time is today

 

[dapaterson]

In 2000, Buck told us there’d be an AOR hull in the water in 5 years.

As a Capt(N) posted in as DNR, Ron Lloyd promised that before he was posted out that Steel would be cut for the CSC

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

What did poor Stella ever do to deserve this?

 

[dapaterson]

What did poor Stella ever do to deserve this?

Betrayed by auto complete.

 

[FSTO]

In 2000, Buck told us there’d be an AOR hull in the water in 5 years.

I should clarify. He meant construction would start, not that it would be sailing.

 

[billbillbill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840410044606591479

 

[Underway]

Yes, there is that. But is that an insurmountable barrier?

I think we need a third for sure. But we can do it like the Germans did. Runthe first two for a while, get the list of fixes/changes and then go for a new build 5-6 years on, aiming to have it in the water for year 10 of JSS1. Then JSS1 could go in for a midlife around year 11, 12.

By that time plenty of new CG vessels would be in the water and you could probably adjust for adding JSS 3 to the schedule and not negatively impact the CCG drumbeat to badly.

 

[NavyShooter]

If we look at what just happened to the USNS Big Horn - having a few extra tankers with some capability to support our allies would be a damn good idea, and a great international contribution to NATO/etc.

 

[Rainbow1910]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840410044606591479

Some interesting discussions here regarding sealift capability, something Canada might want to definitely look into in the far future? I am unsure if it would be better to have the Navy operated dedicated vessels for this capability or have the Canadian Govt simply buy civilian RORO vessels for military use when required?

 

[calculus]

Video showing one of Preserver's engines (MAN 12V32/44CR) being lowered into the engine room "block".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849508529507532893

 

[GK .Dundas]

Some interesting discussions here regarding sealift capability, something Canada might want to definitely look into in the far future? I am unsure if it would be better to have the Navy operated dedicated vessels for this capability or have the Canadian Govt simply buy civilian RORO vessels for military use when required?

If the Canadian Government actually lived in the real world. We would probably be purchasing both.

 

[Navy_Pete]

If the Canadian Government actually lived in the real world. We would probably be purchasing both.

If the Canadian government lived in the real world, they'd be panicking about not having enough sailors to operate the ones we are already buying, and the worsening retention rate.

 

[Stoker]

If the Canadian government lived in the real world, they'd be panicking about not having enough sailors to operate the ones we are already buying, and the worsening retention rate.

Trying up the Kingston Class is going to solve all our personnel shortages don't you know.

 

[FSTO]

If the Canadian government lived in the real world, they'd be panicking about not having enough sailors to operate the ones we are already buying, and the worsening retention rate.

I think Blair knows. But does Kady know or even care?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

As I said before, start hiring Filipino's. Set up a assessment and training base there, using contractors. Perhaps along with another nation, run them through a selection program sort of like the Gurkhas. They arrive here and start on the Kingston's for final verification. 10 year service buys you guaranteed citizenship.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Wouldn't work Colin: Filipinos are not used to being paid fair wage to operate ships.

 

[Navy_Pete]

As I said before, start hiring Filipino's. Set up a assessment and training base there, using contractors. Perhaps along with another nation, run them through a selection program sort of like the Gurkhas. They arrive here and start on the Kingston's for final verification. 10 year service buys you guaranteed citizenship.

Man, those would be the most fun ships in the fleet, with awesome potluck parties.