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Sadly, yes... and the snack bar at the end of the jetty was closed.
Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS
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Failure statistics fior equipment (and people) is very clear, they follow the bathtub curve.
We can argue where on the curve the HDW is, but its still pretty new and a first of class.
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I get the impression we’ll see a catastrophic CPF failure before we see anything of the sort with an AOPS.
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From what I have seen dealing with the class and failures the ships have had if anything the ship is over engineered for redundancy to prevent mission kill. From what I can see HDW is reaching steady state with somewhat less failures overtime. She is due to go into her first docking soon and lots of issues will be addressed. The biggest issue going forth is the enormous amount of SS and contractor maintenance the ship needs to keep up with.
Halifax Tar
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Some us are still on these old sleek Greyhounds of death. Light a candle for us.
I wonder how that giant BOI would go. Catastrophic failure due to negligence, lack of due diligence or the “can do” spirit.
Who would resign? Who signed waivers?
Some of the old steamers were timed out early due to structural issues, warped keels such as HMCS St Croix became a dock side training ship. Is it time for one or more CPF to be a classroom.
Who would resign? Who signed waivers?
Some of the old steamers were timed out early due to structural issues, warped keels such as HMCS St Croix became a dock side training ship. Is it time for one or more CPF to be a classroom.
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Always in my thoughts, HT - my son’s on them too, so I’m invested.
US Coast Guard is looking to foreign yards to build arctic patrol ships. Is it just me, or does their requirement ("the icebreaker needs to make a path through three feet of ice, have a range of 6,500 nautical miles at 12 knots and operate for more than 60 days. It also would have a flight deck and hangar to accommodate one HH-60 helicopter.") look a lot like AOPV?
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Coast Guard Asking U.S., Foreign Yards for Arctic Security Cutter Pitches - USNI News
The Coast Guard has issued a call to domestic and international shipbuilders to quickly build a new class of icebreaker, according to a government notice. American and international shipbuilders have until April 25 to answer the Coast Guard’s request for information to deliver the first Arctic...
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OldSolduer
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I can actually understand that. Wow thank you!!!
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It was a challenge when we got to that point with the 280s and the PRE; we were already there but needed a great big giant defect to really hammer the point home.
Most things that turn into BOIs aren't one big thing, they are an accumulation of other things all happening at the same time (people, equipment and training) and we've got all of that in spades.
Zero course correction following the near miss on FRE a few years ago, and that particular ship has been run to death since (along with MON) with serious discussion about not being able to afford the estimated $500M, 3-4 year docking work period to just bring things up to minimum safety levels.
We're lucky the original design was great, with a lot of redundancies, but the RCN is far too accustomed to running without any real combat recoverability and operating at/below cargo ship levels of safety. Our only real saving grace is we're still pretty hard over on training and quals, but those standards are continuing to erode due to the time and effort that takes.
Thanks for the reply. What happened on Fredricton and Montreal?
Should they become the first floating classrooms of the CPF? Parts bins to maintain remainder of class? Crews moved to fill vacancies on other ships.
“For sale, one mint condition, hardly used CPF. Some TLC and $500 million in repairs to get certified. We know what we got. No low balls”
Should they become the first floating classrooms of the CPF? Parts bins to maintain remainder of class? Crews moved to fill vacancies on other ships.
“For sale, one mint condition, hardly used CPF. Some TLC and $500 million in repairs to get certified. We know what we got. No low balls”
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Meanwhile in Russia
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Russia’s New ‘Combat Icebreaker’ Undergoes Ice Trials Ahead of Joining Northern Fleet
Russia’s newest icebreaking patrol vessel, the 8,500-tonne Ivan Papanin, has completed the first series of ice trials in the Arctic Ocean. The 114 meter-long and 18 meter-wide armed icebreaker is scheduled to enter into service with the country’s Northern Fleet this summer.
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Halifax Tar
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Meanwhile in Russia
Russia’s New ‘Combat Icebreaker’ Undergoes Ice Trials Ahead of Joining Northern Fleet
Russia’s newest icebreaking patrol vessel, the 8,500-tonne Ivan Papanin, has completed the first series of ice trials in the Arctic Ocean. The 114 meter-long and 18 meter-wide armed icebreaker is scheduled to enter into service with the country’s Northern Fleet this summer.
Paper bear. Its Russian is synonymous with its junk now.
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Not surprising given that they were building her for the last 7 years. I wonder what the maintenance requirements on her are?Meanwhile in Russia
Russia’s New ‘Combat Icebreaker’ Undergoes Ice Trials Ahead of Joining Northern Fleet
Russia’s newest icebreaking patrol vessel, the 8,500-tonne Ivan Papanin, has completed the first series of ice trials in the Arctic Ocean. The 114 meter-long and 18 meter-wide armed icebreaker is scheduled to enter into service with the country’s Northern Fleet this summer.
Rainbow1910
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As bad as Canadian shipbuilding gets, it could always be worse lol. DeWolf only took like 5 years.
Czech_pivo
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A jar of pickles and 2 bottles of Vodka, all fixed Comrade.
KevinB
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Don’t forget the bread
OldSolduer
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da da Tovarisch.....
