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Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS

Failure statistics fior equipment (and people) is very clear, they follow the bathtub curve.
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We can argue where on the curve the HDW is, but its still pretty new and a first of class.

I get the impression we’ll see a catastrophic CPF failure before we see anything of the sort with an AOPS.
 
I get the impression we’ll see a catastrophic CPF failure before we see anything of the sort with an AOPS.

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Failure statistics fior equipment (and people) is very clear, they follow the bathtub curve.
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We can argue where on the curve the HDW is, but its still pretty new and a first of class.

From what I have seen dealing with the class and failures the ships have had if anything the ship is over engineered for redundancy to prevent mission kill. From what I can see HDW is reaching steady state with somewhat less failures overtime. She is due to go into her first docking soon and lots of issues will be addressed. The biggest issue going forth is the enormous amount of SS and contractor maintenance the ship needs to keep up with.
 
I wonder how that giant BOI would go. Catastrophic failure due to negligence, lack of due diligence or the “can do” spirit.
Who would resign? Who signed waivers?

Some of the old steamers were timed out early due to structural issues, warped keels such as HMCS St Croix became a dock side training ship. Is it time for one or more CPF to be a classroom.
 
US Coast Guard is looking to foreign yards to build arctic patrol ships. Is it just me, or does their requirement ("the icebreaker needs to make a path through three feet of ice, have a range of 6,500 nautical miles at 12 knots and operate for more than 60 days. It also would have a flight deck and hangar to accommodate one HH-60 helicopter.") look a lot like AOPV?

 
I wonder how that giant BOI would go. Catastrophic failure due to negligence, lack of due diligence or the “can do” spirit.
Who would resign? Who signed waivers?

Some of the old steamers were timed out early due to structural issues, warped keels such as HMCS St Croix became a dock side training ship. Is it time for one or more CPF to be a classroom.
It was a challenge when we got to that point with the 280s and the PRE; we were already there but needed a great big giant defect to really hammer the point home.

Most things that turn into BOIs aren't one big thing, they are an accumulation of other things all happening at the same time (people, equipment and training) and we've got all of that in spades.

Zero course correction following the near miss on FRE a few years ago, and that particular ship has been run to death since (along with MON) with serious discussion about not being able to afford the estimated $500M, 3-4 year docking work period to just bring things up to minimum safety levels.

We're lucky the original design was great, with a lot of redundancies, but the RCN is far too accustomed to running without any real combat recoverability and operating at/below cargo ship levels of safety. Our only real saving grace is we're still pretty hard over on training and quals, but those standards are continuing to erode due to the time and effort that takes.
 
Thanks for the reply. What happened on Fredricton and Montreal?
Should they become the first floating classrooms of the CPF? Parts bins to maintain remainder of class? Crews moved to fill vacancies on other ships.

“For sale, one mint condition, hardly used CPF. Some TLC and $500 million in repairs to get certified. We know what we got. No low balls”
 
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