Army Reserve Restructuring

[KevinB]

So you don’t have division HQs having an incestuous relationship to a single Reg F brigade and knowing only a single region of the country despite holding cross Canada responsibilities. The Expeditionary Div cannot be a 1 CMBG club and it will need pers from 2 CMBG & 5 CMBG & 6 CCSB & Fires. The Defence of Canada Div cannot be a 5 GBMC with 33 CBG & 34 CBG club. The support division cannot be a 2 CMBG club. Functionally focused divisions should result in more annual moves than the current geographical divisions.

A size of the CA combined with Cap badge mafia already make the CA incestuous.

Honestly it’s one real Div and 2 fake ones anyway. The DoC Div is PRes, and the Support Div is base side - neither of which realistically rate a 2* MGen position.

 

[McG]

A size of the CA combined with Cap badge mafia already make the CA incestuous.

All the more reason to not make it worse.

 

[Ludoc]

So 3 Div HQ is moving from Edmonton to Montreal, and 2 Div HQ is moving from Montreal to Edmonton?

What? No. The Manoeuvre Div will be called 3 Div and based out of Edmonton. The Defence of Canada Div will be based out of Montreal and be called 2 Div. Support Div will be called 4 Div and is looking for a home. CADTC may get a new home and new name. Expect a bunch of sad cowboys to move East and a bunch of furious french speakers to move West as the Army tries to balance the cap badges in HQs.

The names are confusing because all the documentation from early on described them as 6, 7, & 8 Div. Then at some point it all switched 2, 3, & 4 Div. The RoD of the brief to the CCA says "stop referring to them by number, call them Defence of Canada/Support/Manoeuvre, and we will figure out numbers later". So the numbers may still change.

The locations for Support Div and Training will influence each other. Once one calls "dibs" on a location they will both have to choose a champion and through martial combat battle for the right to be there. Either that or write some briefing notes and convince the CCA which should be there.

 

[markppcli]

So you don’t have division HQs having an incestuous relationship to a single Reg F brigade and knowing only a single region of the country despite holding cross Canada responsibilities. The Expeditionary Div cannot be a 1 CMBG club and it will need pers from 2 CMBG & 5 CMBG & 6 CCSB & Fires. The Defence of Canada Div cannot be a 5 GBMC with 33 CBG & 34 CBG club. The support division cannot be a 2 CMBG club. Functionally focused divisions should result in more annual moves than the current geographical divisions.

Sorry are you suggesting they rotate the location of the Div HQ regularly? or do you mean the people inside it? I assume @PuckChaser meant moving the HQ staff complete to be a Div HQ in a different province.

 

[McG]

Sorry are you suggesting they rotate the location of the Div HQ regularly? or do you mean the people inside it? I assume @PuckChaser meant moving the HQ staff complete to be a Div HQ in a different province.

The staff in the Div HQs must be pulled from across the country. The HQs themselves will have static homes.

 

[markppcli]

The staff in the Div HQs must be pulled from across the country. The HQs themselves will have static homes.

Right I think there’s some confusing responses and phrasing that read like full scale movement of the entire head quarters which would seem like a massive disruption for marginal gain - I’d like to assume we can count on our senior officers to be a bit more professional.

 

[McG]

My post was in reply to the question "why move anyone?" We need to move people. Lots of people at first stand-up, and then less but still at an increased annual rate than the old geographic Div HQs needed. Picking up whole HQs and swapping locations or routinely moving them around the country are a nonsensical ideas ... so nonsensical that I can't help but assume anyone discussing this knows they are being ridiculous.

 

[PuckChaser]

My post was in reply to the question "why move anyone?" We need to move people. Lots of people at first stand-up, and then less but still at an increased annual rate than the old geographic Div HQs needed. Picking up whole HQs and swapping locations or routinely moving them around the country are a nonsensical ideas ... so nonsensical that I can't help but assume anyone discussing this knows they are being ridiculous.

I think you missed the point of my post. Switching 2 Div and 3 Div pers APS26 is dumb. Posting people from all over will happen, but like the incestuous relationship in NCR/Kingston/Pet/etc, you better believe the positions at the lower end staff jobs will predominately be from those areas.