Army Reserve Restructuring

[QV]

25,000 St John's Ambulance
20,000 Red Cross
20, 000 SAR volunteers
90,000, volunteer firefighters
How many thousands of Citizens on patrol and block watch volunteers.
How about accessing the Corps of Commissionaires for another 20,000 or so.

Perhaps some of these (all of these could be registered with the MRES)

I think a lot of those people are already doing something critical that probably can't be turned off. Volunteer firefighters for example - you would have no fire response coverage in all those places if you re-purposed them.

That said I think there are swaths of people that can be put to work doing something useful in a crisis:

• extra set of hands for mass casualty (St John Amb), events/flood mitigation work
• guarding/observing vital points (anyone with very short trg period)
• moving equipment (trucking military equipment/supplies, survival essentials)
• heavy equipment operating (flood berms, defensive structures, repairing vital infrastructure like roads/airfields)
• distribution of equipment (someone has to had out all the radios/guns/truck keys)

When I look around where I work (there are a few hundred civil servants) I think I could fill a number of the above billets with very minimal training. I could prob generate 40-50 pers (who are not total slobs) just for vital point security tasks quite easily (with some basic equipment + a real QRF), plus a bunch of other tasks.

 

[Kirkhill]

I think a lot of those people are already doing something critical that probably can't be turned off. Volunteer firefighters for example - you would have no fire response coverage in all those places if you re-purposed them.

That said I think there are swaths of people that can be put to work doing something useful in a crisis:

• extra set of hands for mass casualty (St John Amb), events/flood mitigation work
• guarding/observing vital points (anyone with very short trg period)
• moving equipment (trucking military equipment/supplies, survival essentials)
• heavy equipment operating (flood berms, defensive structures, repairing vital infrastructure like roads/airfields)
• distribution of equipment (someone has to had out all the radios/guns/truck keys)

When I look around where I work (there are a few hundred civil servants) I think I could fill a number of the above billets with very minimal training. I could prob generate 40-50 pers (who are not total slobs) just for vital point security tasks quite easily (with some basic equipment + a real QRF), plus a bunch of other tasks.

I agree that they are all doing useful work. And that work will still be needed in a crisis.

But does the government know they are there, what they are doing, how they can contribute and what help they need?

I am start to think of these MRES types not as volunteers so much as registrants. The 5 days a year (40 hours? spread over the year?) is not so much a workload, or even a training load so much as a wellness check.

Perhaps there is no reason for a volunteer to leave her current organization whdn she registers for the MRES. Equally unaffiliated people could register and be directed to related organizations.

As some have noted not much is known. At this stage I think speculation can be useful.

 

[FJAG]

Just a couple of points on SuppRes.

1) The useful aspect of this plan is that once enrolled in the SuppRes these individuals can be placed on Active Service pursuant to NDA s 31 by an order in counsel. They are subject to this provision until properly released from the SuppRes.

2) OTOH, the terms of service of the SuppRes, under the current regulations, makes them not compellable to serve on Aid of the Civil Power (NDA 275/276) or to attend training (NDA 33(2)(a)) or to be called out on service to perform any lawful duty (NDA 33(2)(b)/NDA 33(3). Attendance on these activities is currently only if they volunteer to participate. This provision has its foundation in a Ministerial order - QR&O 2.034 b. QR&O 2.034 is the order which creates the 4 sub components of the reserve force. 2.034 b limits when the SuppRes can be compelled to participate.

It is always possible for the Minister to amend this QR&O to suit what is being contemplated here but it would have to be done carefully as you have basically two classes of SuppRes - the first is what we have now, released RegF and PRes with prior service and training, and this new category of briefly trained folks. IMHO, they bring different skills to the game and should be managed differently.

This is why I've been saying that the better course of action would have been for the Minister to create a new, 5th sub-component of the reserve force with different legal obligations.

 

[Brad Sallows]

They have dedicated people working on this. You saying they are not does not make your statement valid.

Top. Men.

I am not reassured by hand-waving that whatever they have committed is necessarily enough, or charged to go far enough. I agree we have to see the idea and the product. So far, the idea is underwhelming.

This isn’t WW2. Adopting efforts from 80 years ago.

"OK Boomer" dismissals of the past are of no value. The US did a really good job. There is much there worth studying and emulating.

 

[Brad Sallows]

TB could add a leave provision with pay for those five days annually.

Could, but shouldn't, and won't if they understand the stupidity of moving people from the highest-value use of their time to a low-value use.

If people want to go to Summer Soldier Skills Camp on their vacation time, fine. Not by trading more of their working time. Not when the country has a simmering productivity crisis and almost all public agencies are producing messages to the effect of "we need more people doing what we do".

 

[Brad Sallows]

I agree that they are all doing useful work. And that work will still be needed in a crisis.

But does the government know they are there, what they are doing, how they can contribute and what help they need?

Stand up a liaison office charged with talking to the organizations that already are keeping track of their own people instead of duplicating their work.

 

[Kirkhill]

Stand up a liaison office charged with talking to the organizations that already are keeping track of their own people instead of duplicating their work.

Sounds like an effective part of a plan.