Army Reserve Restructuring

[Brad Sallows]

We were so much cheaper then.

We're older than that now.

 

[boredtoon]

With the authorized since of the PRes increasing by 400%, I wonder if we are going to see any units come off the Supplementary Order of Battle? The 4th Princess Lousie Dragoon Guards in Ottawa would make some sense as the only armoured unit in 33 CBG is the Ontario Regiment in the GTA.

Nah. There are already multiple units in every major city that are well below doctrinal strength. It's far easier to just expand the existing ones than pull units off the Supp Orbat. The Brockville Rifles for example have a Trained Effective Strength of 36 according to a slide deck from September.

 

[MilEME09]

Nah. There are already multiple units in every major city that are well below doctrinal strength. It's far easier to just expand the existing ones than pull units off the Supp Orbat. The Brockville Rifles for example have a Trained Effective Strength of 36 according to a slide deck from September.

pretty much, I don't see the recently stood up D troop of 20th Field getting renamed "19th Medium Artillery Regiment, RCA" for example in Calgary, we need expansion of the current units, not creating new ones. Authorize every unit to full peacetime strength, and you will easily have room to absorb 100k+

 

[daftandbarmy]

Nah. There are already multiple units in every major city that are well below doctrinal strength. It's far easier to just expand the existing ones than pull units off the Supp Orbat. The Brockville Rifles for example have a Trained Effective Strength of 36 according to a slide deck from September.

I wonder how many of those are Cpl/Ptes

 

[MilEME09]

I wonder how many of those are Cpl/Ptes

probably not many, if you look and those side decks on reserve ES and TES, certain geo areas have a hard time attracting people, Manitoba and and sask for example have struggled for over a decade. Even my units own attempt to stand up a platoon in lethbridge AB has seen almost 0 growth.

 

[daftandbarmy]

probably not many, if you look and those side decks on reserve ES and TES, certain geo areas have a hard time attracting people, Manitoba and and sask for example have struggled for over a decade. Even my units own attempt to stand up a platoon in lethbridge AB has seen almost 0 growth.

Well, after all, the folks in the Crowsnest Pass call it 'Meth Bridge' so no surprise there

Actually, as I recall, it's a bustling little urban/rural centre so I find it surprising that the numbers don't add up. Their university is very popular too, so there shouldn't be a shortage of potential applicants.

Pincher Creek is next door too, which is not as big, but must have a few hundred eligible people.

 

[MilEME09]

Well, after all, the folks in the Crowsnest Pass call it 'Meth Bridge' so no surprise there

Actually, as I recall, it's a bustling little urban/rural centre so I find it surprising that the numbers don't add up. Their university is very popular too, so there shouldn't be a shortage of potential applicants.

Pincher Creek is next door too, which is not as big, but must have a few hundred eligible people.

Well when you have armour, and arty, if you don't have a good recruiting team, not many would want to play service battalion

 

[daftandbarmy]

Well when you have armour, and arty, if you don't have a good recruiting team, not many would want to play service battalion

Being Infantry, you would think I'd agree with you but I'm pretty sure our local Svc Bn mob 'out attracted' us on a regular basis...

 

[childs56]

Well when you have armour, and arty, if you don't have a good recruiting team, not many would want to play service battalion

A good recruiting team is what is needed.

 

[MilEME09]

Being Infantry, you would think I'd agree with you but I'm pretty sure our local Svc Bn mob 'out attracted' us on a regular basis...

and thats a great recruiting team then, currently we are getting a steady flow in calgary, but haven't seen a new member in lethbridge in about 12 months

 

[boredtoon]

I wonder how many of those are Cpl/Ptes

They have a PAT Pl of about 25 according to that same slide deck. The problem with a unit that small, even though its tactically grouped with another, the PWOR, is when you are that small, you just can't run the courses to grow. Not enough NCOs. So the unit gets stuck in a loop of creating 2-6 new trained troops per year whilst watching 2-6 trained pers release or retire.

 

[daftandbarmy]

They have a PAT Pl of about 25 according to that same slide deck. The problem with a unit that small, even though its tactically grouped with another, the PWOR, is when you are that small, you just can't run the courses to grow. Not enough NCOs. So the unit gets stuck in a loop of creating 2-6 new trained troops per year whilst watching 2-6 trained pers release or retire.

We used to get that depleted, from time to time, and had to team up with other units to run a combined course.

I’m guessing there aren’t even enough units in that area, with enough trainers, to do the job.

Good thing Bde HQ will be keen to jump in and help out!