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Army Reserve Restructuring

How many people on a course and how many courses could realistically be ran per year given existing instructor availability and facility requirements? What numbers of qualified people could be achieved in 1 year? Curious to know what is the realm of the possible on this...

Retired NCOs/Off could perhaps be contracted out to run this basic curriculum... some enterprising retired individual is getting a business license as we speak...

What is the max trainee vs min instr load? Could it look like this?

Course load: 30 (15 on firing line at a time, remainder observing/helping)

Rifle range staff: 4
Days 1-6

Other mil trg staff: 2
Days 7-9, 12
(Scrub pistol altogether, or offer 2 hr famil and hope they don't need to touch one)

Second serial of 30 starts when first serial moves to other mil training. So 6 people can train 120 people in a month.

120 people trained a month x 10 months = 1200/yr per site
x 4 training sites (not sure what's reasonable/achievable)

4800/year
Scales up with more sites/serials.

Very rudimentary, I know, and ignores all the admin/support behind the scenes...
Staffing:Students?

Course Officer + SGT or WO
ADmin NCO + 2 x storesmen (storespeople?)
1 CPL (leadership trained) to SGT per 16 students (worse case scenario), ideal 1 CPL-SGT to 10 students

C8/C7 (hell keep the old C7A2 around for these guys to use) range practices (25m/100m Grouping/ZERO practice prone, 100m Prone Grouping, 200m prone grouping, 100m Kneeling and standing, 100m/200m/300m snap shoots and timed shoots. No PWT3

Pistol, minimum level of shooting required (familiarity).

First time I threw hand grenades in the reserves (be fore I joined the regs), I got an hour on a dummy grenade, then threw 2 live grenades. Don't "Over complicate" simple training
 
Wait, Lethbridge has armour, artillery and service battalion?


100k 50k GIF
If you think thats surprising, I should show you a list of 9th Technical regiment RCEME, from the 50s in southern AB
 
An independent battery and a troop of Sally Horse.

If you think thats surprising, I should show you a list of 9th Technical regiment RCEME, from the 50s in southern AB

Kamloops is bigger roughly the same size and I thought we did good having an under strength infantry platoon and an admin section.
 
Kamloops is bigger roughly the same size and I thought we did good having an under strength infantry platoon and an admin section.
I mean in the 50s we had a recovery troop in Blairmore of all places. We can sustain a lot more, and if we really give admin coys to all the units? Thats going to be a lot of trades opening up in every smaller city.
 
With the authorized since of the PRes increasing by 400%, I wonder if we are going to see any units come off the Supplementary Order of Battle? The 4th Princess Lousie Dragoon Guards in Ottawa would make some sense as the only armoured unit in 33 CBG is the Ontario Regiment in the GTA.
Ironically most of the supp order regiments are seemingly in the process of potentially being merged with active francophone unit like the Volts who all have no battle honors. Because.... of the implication...
The irony though is not lost on me
 
Ironically most of the supp order regiments are seemingly in the process of potentially being merged with active francophone unit like the Volts who all have no battle honors. Because.... of the implication...
The irony though is not lost on me
The supplementary order of battle is actually a pretty new affair started in the 1960s. There aren't that many units on it - 3 armoured, 23 artillery and 8 infantry.

Which of these are allegedly merging with the Franco units?

:unsure:
 
I mean in the 50s we had a recovery troop in Blairmore of all places. We can sustain a lot more, and if we really give admin coys to all the units? Thats going to be a lot of trades opening up in every smaller city.

The Blairmore Legion has (or had) some of their stuff... as well as a CScotR display, which was interesting...
 
Nah. There are already multiple units in every major city that are well below doctrinal strength. It's far easier to just expand the existing ones than pull units off the Supp Orbat. The Brockville Rifles for example have a Trained Effective Strength of 36 according to a slide deck from September.
So one of the larger Army PRes units in the orbat then? 🤔
 
Ironically most of the supp order regiments are seemingly in the process of potentially being merged with active francophone unit like the Volts who all have no battle honors. Because.... of the implication...
The irony though is not lost on me
If you are referring to the

Voltigeurs de Québec, they do have a number of Battle Honours. Are you implying that they are merging English speaking units that are mostly from outside Quebec, with French Speaking units?

I would really like to see the justification for amalgating the South Saskatchewan Regiment into a Quebec regiment.
 
Staffing:Students?

Course Officer + SGT or WO
ADmin NCO + 2 x storesmen (storespeople?)
1 CPL (leadership trained) to SGT per 16 students (worse case scenario), ideal 1 CPL-SGT to 10 students

C8/C7 (hell keep the old C7A2 around for these guys to use) range practices (25m/100m Grouping/ZERO practice prone, 100m Prone Grouping, 200m prone grouping, 100m Kneeling and standing, 100m/200m/300m snap shoots and timed shoots. No PWT3

Pistol, minimum level of shooting required (familiarity).

First time I threw hand grenades in the reserves (be fore I joined the regs), I got an hour on a dummy grenade, then threw 2 live grenades. Don't "Over complicate" simple training


Perhaps start by enrolling some of those retired NCOs and Offrs that QV referenced in this new reserve, and then have them lead the new entries through the Distance Learning Package as mentors.

And the field work - either a 2 week programme or three or four long weekends.

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I think you and I differ on the meaning of "pretty new" if you are saying something started in the '60s qualifies.
It's pretty new when you consider that hundreds upon hundreds of units from WW2 were simply disbanded. The Supp Ord of Battle came about in the 1960s as a result of the Suttie commissions closures of Militia units and post unification RegF unit reductions. The Aupp Ord of Battle system makes it easier to reactivate units.

But yeah. In the big scheme of things military, the mid 1960s are pretty recent.

;)
 
It's pretty new when you consider that hundreds upon hundreds of units from WW2 were simply disbanded. The Supp Ord of Battle came about in the 1960s as a result of the Suttie commissions closures of Militia units and post unification RegF unit reductions. The Aupp Ord of Battle system makes it easier to reactivate units.

But yeah. In the big scheme of things military, the mid 1960s are pretty recent.

;)
It does zero in terms of facilitating reactivation of units. A unit, whether stood up from scratch or moved from the S O B, would follow the same steps.

If anything, a new unit would be easier, as there are no historical / hysterical landmines from the past (including but not limited to patrons).
 
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