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Bowe Bergdahl: Missing in AFG 2009, Released 2014, Tried 2015

Disagree with you cupper. This incident is a legitimate beef.

Obama on his soapbox: No man left behind. Reality: hung out to die in Benghazi.

Taking the heat off the latest scandal, the VA, by releasing five experienced, powerful terrorists, FAILED.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/author/stephen-f.-hayes#latest-article

'We Swore to an Oath and We Upheld Ours. He Did Not.'

The soldiers in Bowe Bergdahl's platoon speak up.

Jun 2, 2014 • By STEPHEN F. HAYES

The Obama administration is facing mounting questions about the controversial prisoner swap that freed Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl from jihadists in Pakistan in exchange for the transfer and ultimate release of five senior Taliban commanders previously held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Lawmakers are questioning the wisdom and legality of the move. Intelligence officials are expressing deep concerns about its ramifications. And those who served with Bergdahl—or took risks in the efforts to rescue him—are directly challenging the Obama administration's characterization of the former captive and his actions.

In an appearance on ABC's This Week on Sunday, National Security Adviser Susan Rice claimed that Bergdahl "wasn't simply a hostage, he was an American prisoner of war, taken on the battlefield." She added: "He served the United States with honor and distinction."

"That's not true," says Specialist Cody Full, who served in the same platoon as Bergdahl, and whose tweets over the weekend as @CodyFNfootball offered an early firsthand account of Bergdahl's departure. "He was not a hero. What he did was not honorable. He knowingly deserted and put thousands of people in danger because he did. We swore to an oath and we upheld ours. He did not."

"He walked off—and 'walked off' is a nice way to put it," says Specialist Josh Cornelison, the medic in Bergdahl's platoon. "He was accounted for late that afternoon. He very specifically planned to walk out in the middle of the night."

"He was a deserter," says Specialist Full. "There's no question in the minds of anyone in our platoon."

In interviews, several of Bergdahl's platoon mates described a soldier who was contemplative, detached and quixotic. He wrote adventure stories—"Jason Bourne, Ramboish type of crap," says one soldier—that placed himself at the center of the action. "He'd write 'Bowe Bergdahl walked across the dark and dusty street' or something like that."

He spent his free time studying Dari and Pashto and took great interest in the lives of local Afghans. Fellow soldiers say that when the platoon dined with the local Afghan National Police forces, Bergdahl lingered to mix with the Afghans. In free time on Forward Operating Base Sharana, when others passed time playing games, chatting with friends or clicking around their computers, Bergdahl chose to engage the locals. "He'd spend hours drinking tea with them, just hanging out," says one of Bergdahl's former platoon mates. "He got to know the locals well and had many friends."

He was energized when his unit worked with local Afghans and helped them improve their own lives. But he was troubled when their missions included more traditional military functions. "It wasn't all rainbows and smiley faces," says Cornelison. "A lot of the time it was brutal and rough and he got very disillusioned. He got angry and frustrated."

"You don't mail all your personal belongings home, especially your computer. It's not like you can go to a sports bar -- there's no sports bars over there," says Specialist Full. "You just wouldn't give up your computer if you weren't planning to leave. He knowingly deserted and he put countless fellow Americans in danger -- not just his platoon mates."

If there is little question in the minds of the former members of Bergdahl's unit that he was a deserter, it's not clear that the military came to that same conclusion—at least formally. 

Current and former military and intelligence officials tell THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the U.S. Army conducted an exhaustive investigation into Bergdahl's separation from his platoon. The investigation, undertaken by an officer from outside of the unit and called an AR 15-6, involved sworn testimony from virtually everyone who had regular contact with Bergdahl. The soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon were questioned repeatedly by investigators. Many were ordered to sign non-disclosure agreements, a step that a former senior military official calls "highly unusual."

Cornelison, as the unit's medic, was questioned virtually every time the platoon rotated back to a large base to clear up and get a hot meal. "We got 90 minutes for a shower and a meal -- and I spent 45 minutes every time answering their questions." Investigators asked about everything—from the circumstances of Bergdahl's departure, to his views on the Army and his interactions with other soldiers. A frequent line of questioning involved the kind of information Bergdahl possessed that could aid the Taliban—medical knowledge, how the Army responds to IED attacks, troop movements, rules of engagement.

Bergdahl was initially classified as DUSTWUN—duty status: whereabouts unknown. Two military sources involved in recovery operations tell THE WEEKLY STANDARD that after the AR 15-6 investigation, the U.S. Army considered Bergdahl absent without leave. Pentagon officials engaged in a lengthy—and sometimes heated—debate about whether to reclassify Bergdahl as a deserter. In the end, he was not formally listed as a deserter, though the nature of his disappearance is far from a settled issue.

Bergdahl is at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, where he is under medical evaluation. He is undergoing a lengthy debriefing process by a variety of U.S. officials, including counterintelligence specialists, who will try to learn more about the circumstances of his departure and the nature of his time with the Taliban and, eventually, the Haqqani network.




 
Rifleman62 said:
Disagree with you cupper. This incident is a legitimate beef.

I'm not saying that they don't have a legitimate beef.

What I'm saying is that they aren't doing a good job putting their point of view across.

Almost all interviews I've seen with GOP members across the spectrum, they say the deal is bad and should never have been done, but when asked what deal they would have done, they have no answer, or they fall back to the "You never leave a comrade behind"

Before the deal went down, they were all chanting that the Administration needed to bring Bergdahl home. But when they do, it's the opposite view that the deal should not have been done, or Obama broke the law in the process.

And they can't seem to square that circle.

The question you have to ask is, If Bergdahl had been legitimately captured in battle, rather than the alleged circumstances being put forth of desertion or defection, would there have been the same uproar? Or if Bergdahl had died in Taliban hands and it came out that there was a deal in the works and not carried through, would the right have been attacking the Administration for not doing enough and leaving him behind (regardless of the questionable circumstances of how he was captured)

I'm not even going to begin on equating this to Benghazi. 18 congressional, and countless departmental and administration investigations speak for themselves. There is no there there.

As for trying to deflect attention from the VA crisis, that was never going to happen and the Administration knew it. And theres is more than enough blame all around for that to be a non-partisan debacle.
 
For whatever it's worth, Bergdahl's home town has taken down the yellow ribbons and cancelled their "welcome home" plans.
 
Journeyman said:
For whatever it's worth, Bergdahl's home town has taken down the yellow ribbons and cancelled their "welcome home" plans.

The stated reason is that they were expecting such large crowds that the local police force felt that they did not have sufficient resources to ensure  the safety of those who would be attending the event.
 
cupper said:
The stated reason is that they were expecting such large crowds that the local police force felt that they did not have sufficient resources to ensure  the safety of those who would be attending the event.

Hence....
Journeyman said:
For whatever it's worth....
Yes, I have personal views on this.  Any troops who died searching for him, and the SF folks and all the supporting elements involved with going in to get him --  when he OBVIOUSLY deserted leaving his kit behind  -- was not worth the price.

...let alone the 5 terrorist leaders released in exchange.



[NOT a far-right Republican; sometimes we just think alike.  Sometimes. ]
 
Journeyman said:
Hence....
Yes, I have personal views on this.  Any troops who died searching for him, and the SF folks and all the supporting elements involved with going in to get him --  when he OBVIOUSLY deserted leaving his kit behind  -- was not worth the price.

...let alone the 5 terrorist leaders released in exchange.



[NOT a far-right Republican; sometimes we just think alike.  Sometimes. ]

Was just adding for clarification, nothing more.

My view on this is mixed.

One one hand, there is a duty by the Country to ensure the return of every member from the battlefield, regardless of circumstances. PERIOD.

Because of that duty, there cannot be limitations or conditions on the price paid for the return of any individual.

But on the other hand, you have to ask if this has not set a precedent for future negotiations should other members of the US Military fall into the hands of the the Taliban or similar organizations.

Regardless of the circumstances of Bergdahl's capture (AWOL, Desertion, Defection, Whatever) the duty was still there to get him back. Once back, investigate and if there is a case, try him and punish him to the full extent of the law. No case, let him get back to rejoining society.
 
cupper:
One one hand, there is a duty by the Country to ensure the return of every member from the battlefield, regardless of circumstances. PERIOD.

Is that an Obama period? Followers of US politics with the continuous disingenuous (lies) statements that come from the current administration will know what that means.

cupper:
But on the other hand, you have to ask if this has not set a precedent for future negotiations should other members of the US Military fall into the hands of the the Taliban or similar organizations.

Not just members of the US military. All Americans just like in the era of airliner hi-jacking if you had a US or Israeli passport.

I will add Canadians into the risk pool as in most cases we are indistinguishable from Americans.

cupper:
Once back, investigate and if there is a case, try him and punish him to the full extent of the law.

You should know, as you were in the military, that his absence has already been investigated. Whats missing is Bergdahl's personal testimony.

cupper:
No case, let him get back to rejoining society.

He will be rejoining society, eventually, and possibly soon. With a probable Dishonorable Discharge, it will be difficult to get a job, but hey who needs one with food stamps, mortgages without the requirement of proof of income, Obama cell phones, etc.

Bergdahl could become a community organizer in Idaho. With that experience he has the credentials to be the POTUS.
 
Jim Seggie said:
Don't count on it. This is a feel good story for the Obama administration. And if the military justice system does pursue charges, I can almost guarantee you that there will be high profile law firms lining up to defend him, and segments of the media willing to discredit the military justice system.
Rifleman, I have my doubts that he will be dishonourably discharged.

I think the US Military Justice System will have its hands tied on this one.
 
FOX News

KELLY FILE: BERGDAHL PLATOON DEFENDS AGAINST TEAM OBAMA CLAIMS

On the same day that President Obama dismissed growing concerns over the deal to release five senior Islamist militant commanders from  U.S. custody in exchange for one American hostage accused of deserting his platoon, six soldiers who served alongside Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in Afghanistan denounced claims that their criticism of the deal was politically motivated. Appearing on “The Kelly File,” the men expressed anger, sadness and outrage over the alleged desertion, the deal to free him and the heroic treatment he received from the Obama administration. In a stark moment, anchor Megyn Kelly asked if they thought Bergdahl was a deserter, and all six men silently raised their hands. The veterans also addressed new evidence obtained by Fox News Chief Washington Correspondent James Rosen that Bergdahl may have collaborated with the enemy against his former American comrades.

[Watch Thursday’s interview from “The Kelly File” and don’t miss the second-half of the exclusive on the Fox News Channel tonight at 9 p.m. ET.]

‘We would all die for him, and he left’ - “Here is the thing. When you’re in combat it doesn’t matter, left, right, independent, Jedi, whatever you want to be,” one of the soldiers, Cody Full, said. “We’ll all ride together, we’ll all die together. I don’t know how he felt about us, but we would all die for him, and he left.” The soldiers also responded to criticism that they’re coming forward was motivated by a desire to harm Obama’s political standing, as administration defenders have claimed. One of the soldiers, Gordon Sutton, said he was “flattered” the administration was acknowledging their complaints, but said they are speaking out in order to get to the truth and to express their outrage at Bergdahl’s release being celebrated at a Rose Garden event with Obama. Evan Beutow, another platoon member, said the Rose Garden appearance made him so upset, he had to leave the room. “[Bergdahl] did not serve with distinction. That’s a spit in the face to everyone who joined the Army and anyone who died looking for him. What do you think their families think?” he asked.

Obama includes media swipe in D-Day memorial speech - As President Obama was memorializing the heroes of June 6, 1944 in France today, he also offered a version of his frequent complaint about the press: “In our age of instant commentary, the invasion would have been swiftly and roundly declared, as it was by one officer, ‘a debacle.’” The president also touched on some of his other pet domestic issues, highlighting immigration, his push for women in combat roles and made a point to laud the World War II generation for creating “the greatest middle class the world has ever known.”

Team Obama sorry for ‘psycho’ charge - Fox News: “An Obama administration official apologized Thursday after suggesting on Twitter that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s platoon might have been filled with ‘psychopaths’ – in an apparent attempt to defend Bergdahl against criticism from his fellow soldiers.”

Reid recycles from Hillary - “The whole deal, is it Friday or Saturday? What difference does it make? What difference does it make?—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid when asked by reporters when he was briefed on the Taliban swap.

Administration official cites race, gender to explain Rice criticism - National Security Adviser Susan Rice’s reputation has taken another pasting for her claim that an American soldier accused of deserting his comrades on the battlefield “served with honor and distinction.” But an administration official told Time Magazine that Rice’s praise for the alleged collaborator was simply ‘taken a half-notch out of context’ and that Rice is a victim: “‘She sort of brings out this craziness in a certain crowd,” says one [a]dministration official… ‘I’m not here to suggest it’s because she’s a woman or a minority or what it is,’ the official continues. ‘But other principals in the national-security team don’t come under this kind of attack.’”

On Fox News Sunday - Host Chris Wallace will talk with former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, who has called the deal to free five Taliban leaders a “ghastly transaction.” Plus, Cheryl Brandes, the mother of Army Pfc. Matthew Martinek, who says her son was killed in the search for alleged deserter Bowe Bergdahl, will also provide her reaction to the deal. “Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace” airs at 2 p.m. and 6 p.m. ET on Fox News. Check local listings for air times in your area.

 
While Team Obama bashes members of Bergdahl's unit,the real story should be how much ransom was paid for Bergdahl ? Why would the Haqqani network want Taliban leaders released from Gitmo instead of their own people ?The answer I think is that the prisoners were camoflauge for the ransom being paid.Pretty shameful.
 
Bergdahl was a no-win for any administration, especially this one. I would opine that there wasn't a single COA the Obama administration could have taken that would not have been twisted into something evil by the "other side" - and in this context, by other side I'm not talking about the Taliban, I'm talking the neocons and Fox news. And, had the roles of US leadership been reversed, it probably wouldn't have been any different (though I do find Fox News' level of bias to be considerably more over-the-top than most, but that's probably a separate thread).

I'm not saying the deal was necessarily a good one, but as with everything nowadays, it didn't take long for it to become partisan, complete with all of the mud slinging and half-truths (or outright lies) that have become so sickening in what passes for leadership these days.

Just my opinion.
 
tomahawk6. Reportedly six million dollars.

Apparently the CIA have an extensive file on Bergdahl and his activities.

Transporter:
...I do find Fox News' level of bias to be considerably more over-the-top...

I am going to call you on that. You probably do not even watch FOX News as Cdn cable companies have that channel in a package that costs extra. If you did watch FOX you would know that for every political subject they have spokespersons from both parties. Some of the hosts of FOX shows are really left wing, such as Alan Colmes. Juan Williams is on several shows daily, and he is really left wing and an apologist for the Obama regime.

I call BS.

To add to a previous post in answer to cupper, Bergdahl will get a book and movie deal so possibly will not need the freebees that the Obama administration is throwing out to make some segments of society, in exchange for their vote, dependent on the government.

The administration is already suggesting Bergdahl is mentally damaged, so possibly Big Jim is correct and he won't be CM.
 
Rifleman62 said:
tomahawk6. Reportedly six million dollars.

Apparently the CIA have an extensive file on Bergdahl and his activities.

Transporter:
I am going to call you on that. You probably do not even watch FOX News as Cdn cable companies have that channel in a package that costs extra. If you did watch FOX you would know that for every political subject they have spokespersons from both parties. Some of the hosts of FOX shows are really left wing, such as Alan Colmes. Juan Williams is on several shows daily, and he is really left wing and an apologist for the Obama regime.

I call BS.

To add to a previous post in answer to cupper, Bergdahl will get a book and movie deal so possibly will not need the freebees that the Obama administration is throwing out to make some segments of society, in exchange for their vote, dependent on the government.

The administration is already suggesting Bergdahl is mentally damaged, so possibly Big Jim is correct and he won't be CM.

You have made the incorrect assumption that I live in Canada. I see "the real" Fox News every day (or at least until I've seen all I can stomach). Keep drinking the Fox News Kool-Aid my friend.
 
Transporter:
You have made the incorrect assumption that I live in Canada.

Not really, that's why I said Cdn cable company's. I like FOX News, you don't.

I see "the real" Fox News every day (or at least until I've seen all I can stomach)

I guess that's not Juan Williams, Alan Colmes et al.
 
The National Post has a short bio of three of the "gentlemen" released by Obama. Nasty piece of works they are. Re-printed under the usual provions of the Copyright Act.

‘Gitmo Five’ set free in prisoner exchange are linked to slaughter of thousands of men, women and children

Republish Reprint
Michael Higgins | June 6, 2014 | Last Updated: Jun 6 5:34 PM ET

U.S. Senator John McCain called the five Taliban prisoners exchanged for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl the “hardest of the hard core.”

U.S. authorities have tried to down play the importance of the “Gitmo Five” and reassure people they are unlikely to return to violence.

But what is clear from reports from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and newspaper accounts, three of the men are associated with some of the worst massacres in Afghanistan and are being investigated for war crimes.

Norullah Noori, Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammad Fazl have all been associated with the slaughter of hundreds — possibly thousands — of men, women and children.

They were released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba last week, along with two other prisoners, in a controversial decision by U.S. President Barack Obama. Much of the attention has focused on Sgt. Bergdahl, but the histories of Mr. Noori, Mr. Khairkhwa and Mr. Fazl link them to brutal and bloody episodes.

NORULLAH NOORI

Thousands of Shiites were killed by the Sunni Taliban regime in Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001, a purge ordered in part by Mr. Noori, then governor of Balkh, and other provincial governors, said Rafiullah Bidar, a spokesman for the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission.

Mr. Noori is accused of taking part in the 1998 massacre of up to 8,000 Shiites.

Mohammad Ali lived in Mazar-e-Sharif, the Balkh capital, when his brothers, aged 22 and 25, were executed by the Taliban in 2000. He found their bodies in an open grave, their heads chopped off, lying alongside more than a dozen corpses.

“When I heard [abut the Gitmo Five's] release from news, my blood began to boil,” said Mr. Ali, 52, from Kabul. “I had a strong feeling to take a weapon and go after them.

“America released the murderers of my brothers and tens of thousands others. Shame on you, America.”

Human Rights Watch (HRW) said Mr. Noori “could be implicated in the reported summary executions of ethnic Uzbek civilians in Balkh in May 2001, and in a massacre of civilian prisoners that took place at Robatak Pass, on the border of Samangan and Baghlan provinces, in May 2000.”

In the Robatak Pass massacre, at least 31 hostages were killed after being tortured. HRW said there may have been more deaths, because at least three other grave sites have been identified but not examined.

The hostages were taken as a warning to other villagers not to cooperate with rival militias. They were beaten with electric cables and made to stand outside in sub-zero temperatures. One of them, Sayyid Tajuddin, 38, suffered severe frostbite and had both feet amputated. He was later executed.

A classified U.S. Department of Defense document, prepared in February 2008, said Mr. Noori, a farmer and tailor by trade, was wanted by the United Nations for war crimes, “including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.”

KHAIRULLAH KHAIRKHWA

Khairullah Khairkhwa, former Taliban governor of Herat province and suspected heroin trafficker, is also accused of being involved in a massacre.

M. K. Bhadrakumar, a former Indian diplomat who served in Afghanistan, says Mr. Khairkhwa and the Taliban attacked Mazar-e-Sharif in 1997. but were beaten back by Hazara Shiites and Uzbeks, who form most of the city’s population.

The next year, the Taliban attacked several northern towns — the assault was led by Mullah Khairullah Khairkhwa, then interior minister, according to [itals]The Frontier Post[enditals] newspaper — and after laying siege to Mazar-e-Sharif, stormed the city in August.

“The Hazara Shiites were massacred in their thousands in revenge and for the next six days after entering Mazar, Khairkhwa ordered his men to go from door to door looking for male Hazara Shiites and summarily executed them,” Mr. Bhadrakumar wrote in the [itals]Asia Times[enditals] online newspaper.

“Thousands of Uzbek prisoners were packed into transport truck containers to be suffocated or to die of heat stroke so that Khairkhwa could spare ammunition.

“An Amnesty International report of Sept.  3, 1998, chronicled unemotionally: ‘Taliban guards deliberately and systematically killed thousands of Hazara civilians … in their homes, in the streets where the bodies were left for several days, or in locations between Mazar-i-Sharif and Hairatan [on the Oxus River]. Many of those killed were civilians, including women, children and the elderly who were shot trying to flee the city.’

“Every little child in Mazar knows the epic story of that bloodbath, which reached an historic scale the city had not seen since Genghis Khan and his Mongol army passed through in the 13th century. That is to say, nothing has been forgotten, nothing forgiven.”

MOHAMMAD FAZL

Mohammad Fazl, another “high-risk” detainee, according to Defense department reports, is wanted by the UN for war crimes. Mr. Fazl, who the U.S. said had a long history of human rights abuses, has been implicated in the murders of hundreds of Shiites in Yakaolang, Bamyan province.

In Yakaolang in January 2001, the Taliban detained about 300 civilian adult males, including staff members of local humanitarian organizations. They were herded to assembly points, then shot by firing squad in public view, according to the U.S. State Department.

A witness told Amnesty International, “First they rounded up the people in the streets. They then went from house to house and arrested the men of the families except for the very old men. Nothing could stop them, and they did not spare any of the houses. In one house, the mother of a young man whom the Taleban were taking away held unto him saying she would not allow him to go away without her. The Taleban began to hit the woman brutally with their rifle butts. She died. They took away the son and shot him dead.”

Another witness said the Taliban also killed 73 men, women and children who had taken shelter in a mosque.

“The Taleban got to know that there were people inside and fired two rockets into the mosque. The mosque tumbled and all of the people except for two toddlers — about 3 or 4 years old — were killed. People wanted to see if there were survivors but the Taleban did not allow anyone to enter the site. They guarded it for three nights without letting anyone getting near it. Then, they left the site. We saw the attack on this mosque. It was in our clear view. When the Taleban were guarding the site, hungry dogs came in and pulled out arms and legs of the dead but the Taleban did not allow people to bury them.”

“When asked about the murders, [Fazl] did not express any regret and stated they did what they needed to do in their struggle to establish their ideal state,” said the classified Defense department report, which  was published by WikiLeaks.

Sidney Jones, executive director of the Asia Division of Human Rights Watch, has said of Mr. Fazl and Mr. Noori, “If these men and others like them are not prosecuted, the cycle of violent abuse in Afghanistan is not going to end.”

THE OTHER TWO MEN

Mohammed Nabi, a former policeman and used-car salesman, served in multiple military leadership roles, including intelligence officer, and smuggled weapons and fighters across the Pakistani border into Afghanistan. On one mission, he hid missile components inside beehives.

Abdul Haq Wasiq, a former deputy minister of intelligence, arranged for Al-Qaeda to train the Taliban in “intelligence methods,” according to a leaked Department of Defense file.


National Post, with files from Bloomberg News

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That's about what I would have expected to be locked up in GITMO. Did anyone think these guys were anything but?
 
The following article from the Washington Post describes Israel's prisoner exchanges. There are differences with the Bergdahl exchange but I find some similarities in the desire to not abandon one of your soldiers in the enemies hands. :

Israel’s prisoner swaps have been far more lopsided than Obama’s Bergdahl deal

JERUSALEM — The prisoner exchange that saw U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl swapped for five Taliban commanders is of more than passing interest in Israel, where trading enemy combatants for Israeli soldiers is a long and controversial tradition.

The trades made by Israel have been far more lopsided than the deal struck by the Obama administration this week. The most famous swap, in 2011, involved the release of more than 1,000 Palestinian militants in exchange for one Israeli corporal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/06/05/israels-prisoner-swaps-have-been-far-more-lopsided-than-obamas-bergdahl-deal/

 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0WrMYRMAxI    Obama in 2008 on the election trail.

It is not only the exchange of five "four star Taliban generals", but President Obama broke the law, which requires the administration to notify Congress before any transfers from Guantanamo are carried out.
The law requires the defense secretary to notify relevant congressional committees at least 30 days before making any transfers of prisoners, to explain the reason and to provide assurances that those released would not be in a position to reengage in activities that could threaten the United States or its interests.

It is now US policy to negotiate with terrorists.
 
Whats a bit odd is that the Taliban are not on the terror group list but the Haqqani network is.The administrtion needs to negotiate with the Taliban as the US exits from Afghanistan,without the charge of negotiating with terrorists.Real world politics is tricky compared to a think tank view of the world.
 
The biggest difference being think tanks aren't held accountable. 
 
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