jollyjacktar said:Or JT.
It's not a protest vote when people actually get what they wanted.
jollyjacktar said:Or JT.
jmt18325 said:It's not a protest vote when people actually get what they wanted.
PuckChaser said:Yep, everyone that voted Liberal actually voted Liberal, and not just "Whoever was going to beat Stephen Harper".
PuckChaser said:Yep, everyone that voted Liberal actually voted Liberal, and not just "Whoever was going to beat Stephen Harper".
YZT580 said:I question your sanity then. Why is everyone so sure that the British screwed up?
YZT580 said:I question your sanity then. Why is everyone so sure that the British screwed up? They are better off getting out of the EU. It is called independence and is exactly the same logic that we used when we became a nation in 1867 and why we are not the 51st state. It is the reason Estonia, Latvia, Finland etc. are glad that they are not part of Russia. So why are we ridiculing their desire not to be ruled from Brussels.
jmt18325 said:Leaving the first comment aside (you'd have to question the sanity of a plurality of Canadians), for the short to medium term, it's definitely difficult to see how this is a plus for the UK. Economic growth is predicted to go down worldwide because of it. Companies like Airbus are going to have to examine their operations because of it. New trade agreements will have to be forged.
Long term, there are also some real negatives. The move to leave the EU could spark other moves to leave the EU. The relative peace and security that has taken hold over Europe for the last decade could very well be in danger.
jollyjacktar said:Stop sounding like Mark Carney. The Sky isn't falling, things will get back to normal faster than not. Britain existed and thrived for centuries before the EU and will do so after the divorce. They just lost a ton of dead weight like any divorcee and will be healthier for it
jmt18325 said:I think I trust Mark Carney a bit more on this issue.
YZT580 said:I question your sanity then. Why is everyone so sure that the British screwed up? They are better off getting out of the EU. It is called independence and is exactly the same logic that we used when we became a nation in 1867 and why we are not the 51st state. It is the reason Estonia, Latvia, Finland etc. are glad that they are not part of Russia. So why are we ridiculing their desire not to be ruled from Brussels.
MacDonald was born at Gregory Place, Lossiemouth, Morayshire, Scotland, the illegitimate son of John MacDonald, a farm labourer, and Anne Ramsay, a housemaid.[4
Ramsay MacDonald received an elementary education at the Free Church of Scotland school in Lossiemouth from 1872 to 1875, and then at Drainie parish school. He left school at the end of the summer term in 1881, at the age of 15, and began work on a nearby farm.[7] He was not to be destined for a working life in agriculture. In December 1881 he was appointed as a pupil teacher at Drainie parish school (the entry in the school register of staff recording him as 'J. MacDonald')
jollyjacktar said:Stop sounding like Mark Carney. The Sky isn't falling, things will get back to normal faster than not. Britain existed and thrived for centuries before the EU and will do so after the divorce. They just lost a ton of dead weight like any divorcee and will be healthier for it
jmt18325 said:I think I trust Mark Carney a bit more on this issue.
jollyjacktar said:Feel free to listen to that broken record to your heart's content. The Sun will still continue to rise in the morning.
If the United Kingdom does leave the EU, some wonder, who might be next? And if others do abandon Brussels, how long can the union itself survive?
Those aren’t specious fears. Euro-skepticism is on the rise in many parts of the continent. According to a recent poll by the Pew Research Center, support for the EU fell by 17 percentage points in France last year, 16 percentage points in Spain and eight percentage points in Germany. Among residents of 10 EU countries surveyed by Pew, only 51 per cent viewed the union favourably. An overwhelming majority of those surveyed, meanwhile, disapproved of the EU’s handling of the refugee crisis. And a majority or plurality in nine of the 10 countries told Pew they wanted some powers returned from Brussels to their national governments.
The factors driving that discontent are economic, political and sometimes inchoate. The refugee crisis and the lingering hangover from the 2008 financial collapse have both played significant roles. But so too has the EU’s own unshakeable image as a faceless, meddling bureaucracy, said Jeffrey Kopstein, a professor of political science at the University of California, Irvine. “Somehow it’s been sold as a project that’s distant and non-democratic,” he said.
Kopstein thinks that image is mostly myth. But it has been a remarkably intractable one. The Brussels suit, imposing regulation from on high, has been the key straw man for populists and nationalists across the continent for years.
RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
jmt18325 said:The Liberals are the party that Canadians have historically picked to govern them.
Perhaps notcupper said:Aaaannnnd, now they want a do over.
More than 2.5M sign Brexit do-over petition
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/25/nearly-25m-sign-brexit-do-over-petition/86385466/
Come on people, you should have thought about this before we left! :facepalm: