British Columbia NDP Majority Government 2024-(no later than) 2029

[daftandbarmy]

As an Albertan that enjoys being a Canadian I wish you would sort yourselves out.

It is getting to the point that it would be easier to get a pipeline to tidewater in Washington or Alaska. Perhaps if we paid for it ourselves we could reduce our shipping costs and increase the revenues.

Alberta, looking at BC right now

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Oh this is going to blow up in the government and FN face

 

[Cloud Cover]

Let’s go on over to the BC Property Value Assessment office to see what they think of this matter.

Oh, hello …

 

[Cloud Cover]

All you colonizer white devils are now officially on a very dark path …

First Nation files lawsuit demanding Aboriginal title over lands in western Quebec

A First Nation has filed a title claim in Quebec Superior Court to large swaths of territory across the western part of the province.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Kirkhill]

Terry Glavin is arguing that BC needs treaties.

In 1763 Britain ruled the world and King George III could warn off the French and the Spanish and the Americans and declare that only he and he alone was going to negotiate with the locals.

Does Canada carry the same weight today? BC?

Or are other people free to make offers? Alberta? The US? The Chinese?

Terry Glavin: Cowichan ruling tells us what B.C. really needs is treaties

Both Ottawa and Victoria have lately taken the easier and more glamorous path of concluding what amount to glorified contracts with First Nations

nationalpost.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

Oh this is going to blow up in the government and FN face

All you colonizer white devils are now officially on a very dark path …

First Nation files lawsuit demanding Aboriginal title over lands in western Quebec

A First Nation has filed a title claim in Quebec Superior Court to large swaths of territory across the western part of the province.

www.ctvnews.ca

Wanna see support for first nations plumet... This is how it happen

 

[Rifleman62]

This will never end. The FN will continue to demand "their" land back, more money.

I think the FN were nomadic and moved around to hunt and fish so they think wherever they fished etc, buried a relative, it is their land.

Where would they be today if the colonizer never arrived?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Where would they be today if the colonizer never arrived?

Living in peace and harmony with nature and each other, a global example of what humanity could be if we could all just be better.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

This will never end. The FN will continue to demand "their" land back, more money.

I think the FN were nomadic and moved around to hunt and fish so they think wherever they fished etc, buried a relative, it is their land.

Where would they be today if the colonizer never arrived?

That nomadic part is a lot less true on the West Coast where village sites existed for centuries in a single location.

This is part of the problem- there is no single “First Nation”. It really depends where you are in Canada.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Wanna see support for first nations plumet... This is how it happen

The Cowichan leadership know this and are working hard to clarify a few things - they agree that the Judge screwed up too ...

Cowichan Tribes issues statement to clear up ‘misinformation’ surrounding its Aboriginal title case​

Cowichan Tribes leadership is firing back at Richmond Mayor Malcolm Brodie, Premier David Eby, and other politicians who have recently made public statements about the Cowichan Nation’s Aboriginal title case.

They call the statements about the effect of the B.C. Supreme Court’s judgement on individual private property owners misleading and “deliberately inflammatory.”

“To be clear,” the statement says, “the Cowichan Nation’s court case regarding their settlement lands at Tl’uqtinus in Richmond has not and does not challenge the effectiveness or validity of any title held by individual private landowners. The ruling does not erase private property.”

Cowichan Tribes issues statement to clear up ‘misinformation’

They call the statements about the B.C. Supreme Court’s judgement on individual private property owners “deliberately inflammatory.”

www.aptnnews.ca

 

[YZT580]

Wanna see support for first nations plumet... This is how it happen

choose your favourite metaphor: close the barn door after the horse has escaped, the camel is in the tent. all apply and with the mindset of our current court system we are truly f***ed

 

[YZT580]

That nomadic part is a lot less true on the West Coast where village sites existed for centuries in a single location.

This is part of the problem- there is no single “First Nation”. It really depends where you are in Canada.

many/most cannot be realistically classified as nations: they were extended family groups and independent separate villages

 

[Halifax Tar]

choose your favourite metaphor: close the barn door after the horse has escaped, the camel is in the tent. all apply and with the mindset of our current court system we are truly f***ed

I would argue by and large our judiciary are no longer capable of separating their own personal politics, and personal sense of superiority from their role in the judiciary. Its just another step in the greater break down of our society.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

many/most cannot be realistically classified as nations: they were extended family groups and independent separate villages

I don’t pretend to fully understand the family group/village/nationhood relationship on the west coast.

Nor do I fully understand the role of slave raiding, which the Royal Navy stamped out, finally, in the 1860s. Much to the applause of the lower mainland tribes. I don’t think the Haidas have ever forgiven or forgotten that…

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I would argue by and large our judiciary are no longer capable of separating their own personal politics, and personal sense of superiority from their role in the judiciary. Its just another step in the greater break down of our society.

It seems to me that the Judge in this case has upset all parties, including the Cowichans, who have suddenly discovered that “winning” doesn’t mean what they thought it means and are now back pedalling furiously.

 

[QV]

many/most cannot be realistically classified as nations: they were extended family groups and independent separate villages

Not only that, but which group is awarded recognition for any particular piece of land across the continent? Different tribes warred for generations and control of the lands swapped hands many times over.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Long-term permanent settlements or not, expeditionary behaviours are common enough among all peoples. I can't recall the exact terms-of-art, but a bit of guidance I read a while back indicated that mere occasional use of land had to be considered for title. Undoubtedly various communities occasionally "used" the same lands (eg. fishing, hunting trips) on which none of them were permanently settled for any appreciable length of time, which is why so many of the claims are overlapping nonsense. The fact that mainlanders are having to oppose islanders over ownership of a bit of mainland turf at a point where the straits are rather wide is at one level deeply amusing.

 

[daftandbarmy]

This will take decades to figure out, of course ....

Les Leyne: Cowichan land-title litigation has years to run​

With 86 lawyers involved, you know that the monumental August decision on the 11-year-old case is not the end of the matter.

There are 86 lawyers listed on the first page of the reasons for judgment in the B.C. Supreme Court decision on the Cowichan Tribes’ Aboriginal title case.

So right off the bat, you know that the monumental decision on the 11-year-old case is not the end of the matter.

The Cowichan were represented by 25 lawyers. The federal government used 17, the Musqueam Band had 14, B.C. supplied 11, Vancouver Port Authority had eight, Richmond had seven, and the Tsawwassen First Nation had four.

The first response of all seven parties involved in the case was to appeal. So the conclusion isn’t really a conclusion at all.

It’s going to take years before the issues raised in the decision are even addressed, let alone resolved. Time will turn out to be a big factor shaping the outcome.

It could be a window to do what every major Aboriginal title decision for years has urged: Negotiate some 21st-century arrangements to resolve these issues finally and completely, outside the courts.

But the downside is a long period of uncertainty over whether governments have control over Crown lands claimed by First Nations, and the implications for private-property owners.

https://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/les-leyne-cowichan-land-title-litigation-has-years-to-run-11416385