CAF Security Forces [Split from RCN Anti Drone Weapon]
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Exactly. The USAF, unlike us, does not keep senior citizens around…
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So 2 groups (initially?) stood up.
Security required 24/7, maybe 15 individuals in each shift, with 3 shifts a day, some additional command staff, 50 individuals per location, call it 100 individuals all together? Close?
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I’d ask for 125 -130 like Rifle Company numbers. Accounts for leave, course, sickness etc etc
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I don’t know and would not say numbers in public, even if I did know.
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And you probably need a few techs integral to your organization to fix broken stuff .
So more like 140-150
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If you look at the organization of the USAF Security Forces, you can probably draw a idea that every Air Force Base gets a Squadron - and some of the largest Facilities get a Group which is three Squadrons.
The USAF Security Forces Squadrons are generally around 140-160 personnel, in 3-4 Troops (and a HQ Troop).
Domestically they are not the Base Access Control or LE, they provide ERT for that (on most posts) but primary function is security of the secure areas of the base, but at periods of heightened security posture you will often see Security Force personnel out by the Base entrance points and fence lines.
If Canada was to adopt a similar design - you would end up with probably 18 Squadrons, and 1 Special Operations Security Squadron (Pet)
13 RCAF Air Bases, Tactical Helicopter Squadrons, and the ability to deploy some as required.
Canada being Canada, I doubt you will get everything above
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Don’t forget the Admin clerks.
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If you look at the organization of the USAF Security Forces, you can probably draw a idea that every Air Force Base gets a Squadron - and some of the largest Facilities get a Group which is three Squadrons.
The USAF Security Forces Squadrons are generally around 140-160 personnel, in 3-4 Troops (and a HQ Troop).
Domestically they are not the Base Access Control or LE, they provide ERT for that (on most posts) but primary function is security of the secure areas of the base, but at periods of heightened security posture you will often see Security Force personnel out by the Base entrance points and fence lines.
If Canada was to adopt a similar design - you would end up with probably 18 Squadrons, and 1 Special Operations Security Squadron (Pet)
13 RCAF Air Bases, Tactical Helicopter Squadrons, and the ability to deploy some as required.
Canada being Canada, I doubt you will get everything above
I've yet to be on a USAF base that didnt have Security Forces on the gate checking IDs. Could just be a bias thing i suppose.
Maybe this was done to avoid some of the body shapes that currently make up WASF
You’ll see some pull to this for sure. Use of force training and armed roles domestically- that will correctly be seen as a value add by kids who’ve realized they won’t be competitive for policing for a few years yet and need to put some time in elsewhere.
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Theoretically the contract DoD Police are supposed to do that -- however I know a lot of places the numbers of those LEO's are way too low to actually man all the gates.
I suspect the USAF sites you go to are often live bombing ranges, which has a different setup than JB Lewis-McCord.
I suppose it also depends on who the Squadron/Group higher HQ is to what they will determine as the properly domestic role?
As well, like the RQS's, a number of the Security Force Squadrons are Guard, and feel their active time is better spent elsewhere.
Article on the three month ‘basic defender course’ in Texas. Not a ton of detail, but some.
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Bombing ranges generally aren't really secured. The USAF generally has a keyed gate and a keep out sign. However places with fighters like Moody have SF on the gates. JBLM might be a bit different as army bases often have base police / MPs doing it and its a blended site.
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I feel the same for small town police services (which hardly exist in Ontario anymore) and FN cops working on their home territory.
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They don't want to move, and the bar for entry is pretty low...
We aren't looking for mall cops, with an online security certificate. We already have those with the Commissionaires.
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The baseline for a 24/7 rotation is 7 members for each 24/7 position, so for a shift of 15 you need 105+ day staff. So, like @KevinB mentioned, about 140 would be a solid baseline, to account for day staff, courses, medical, etc...
It's quite an undertaking for the RCAF, and will be a massive change from what we have been doing for many decades.
Thinking back to years of shift work as a cop I’d say the math on this checks out. Any less than that, training and surge capacity suffer as illness, injury, vacation, and parental leave eat into it.
There willl be a need for regular individual and collective training. Scheduling for that can get tricky.
