CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]

[motox]

Thanks for the clarification CDN Aviator.  I simply copy and pasted from garb811's post from 2005, but I later found the actual link and XLS file which I posted afterwards - which I believe has more accurate information. 

 

[Occam]

Interesting, always thought Sonar Op's got spec pay.  I always thought spec pay was defined basically by whether there is a civilian equivalent to the job, I guess that was VERY wrong!

They do get spec pay, but only at the QL5 level and above.

And spec pay is FAR more complicated than simply whether there is a civilian equivalent to the job or not.

 

[aesop081]

Stacked, the reason why you didnt see Sonar Op on the spec pay list is because it is old and has it under one of its former names "

Tactical Acoustic Sensor Operator

 

[WestCoaster]

Here's an even more up to date list, effective 1 April 2010.
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/pub/cbi-dra/204-eng.asp
Look for "TABLE A TO CBI 204.30 - ALLOCATION OF MOSID TO SPECIALIST TRADE GROUPS" about halfway down the page.

 

[Pusser]

There are no navy trades that are west coast only (sandy bottom sailing is not a trade ;D).  The best you could hope for would be to request a navy trade and then ask for Esquimalt as your "Home Port Division."  An HPD West would keep you in Esquimalt for the bulk of your career (with the exception of postings to Ottawa - no one is exempted those -, RSS in western Canadian Naval Reserve units, CFRC or CFLRS staff, etc.).  You also need to be careful as some navy trades (especially the smaller ones) do not have  HPDs, which means you can be posted back and forth from coast to coast.

 

[Cdnrednk]

The next QL5 that was supposed to start has been cancelled from all the sources I've heard, so we will be stalled for a while.

 

[pokio]

After your trade course. Like Borden or other trade school. Since it take about 4 years, guess what, you will be cpl or pretty close before you get it.

Pokio

 

[Sparkplugs]

After your trade course. Like Borden or other trade school. Since it take about 4 years, guess what, you will be cpl or pretty close before you get it.

Pokio

I can't speak for other fleets, but on the Herc, you have to be both trades (QL5) qualified, and a Cpl.  People here are getting their 5's with 2 years in, so they're having to wait a year, year and a half before spec pay is even on the horizon.

 

[nickanick]

Do you get to choose the type of aircraft to work on for the QL5?
Or You get whatever aircraft that is short for  AVN Techs?

 

[cp140tech]

It will be the airframe you're working on at your first posting out of trades training.  Where your first posting will be is beyond anybody but the career manager to say.

 

[nickanick]

It will be the airframe you're working on at your first posting out of trades training.  Where your first posting will be is beyond anybody but the career manager to say.

Thank you for the explanation.
So, we do have our own choice of which type of airframe to work on?
assuming different types of aircraft having different airframe

 

[aesop081]

So, we do of our own choice of which type of airframe to work on,

No, you do not.

 

[cp140tech]

You'll get to select 3 bases that you'd like to be posted to; but as CDN Aviator pointed out, the choice will be made by the CF with consideration given to many variables, one of which will be your preference.

 

[Kennedy890]

After your 14 weeks in Basic you will be sent to Borden , in Borden you will learn basic aircraft knowledge ( Theory of flight , basic electrical , how to use tool properly and a basic introduction to all aircraft. ) you will be there close to 2 years depending the final trade you choose , before ( and I mean like 4 to 6 weeks before )  you gradguate from Borden you will choose 3 Units you would like to go to ( again depending on trade )
Now depending on your current Rank , previous experiance , time of year and availability of  your chosen trade, the units you choose from will depend on where you get sent.  ( Me personaly, I'm from the East coast as well and chose Sheerwater , Trenton, Greenwood and I got Cold Lake Alberta. )  The Military Physical year starts in April so if you gradguate from Borden in say March there will not be many of the "good" postings left to fill that year so what is left is what you will get.    Career manager does not have time for a new Pvt so you are basically a number and there are slots to fill. Unsure if it is the same but when I went through the TOP STUDENT of the class got there choice of posting.
Now that you are a QL3 Tech and are at your 1st Home Unit you will be placed on a waiting list for your QL5 this is to teach you your trade for the Aircraft of the Unit they chose for you aprox another 6 months ( depending on trade ) . Once you are trained you will then be qualified to work on the Aircraft under supervision. 

First year in Borden you will prob be making aprox $32000/yr
Withen 3 years I was QL5 trained at this time making aprox $40000/yr
4 years to the first day of your basic training you will be Cpl ( CPL AND QL5 = spec 1 ) aprox $60000/yr and will slowley climb every additional year.

Sorry for the long dragged out msg but trying to answer all of your other posts all in one here.

 

[nickanick]

Don't the following trades can spec 1 pay??
Medical Technician - AEROMED
Medical Technician - OR
Medical Technician - PA
Medical Technician - Preventive Medicine

 

[medicineman]

They do - but they are specialty trades in the medical branch or Senior Med Techs.  PMed IIRC correctly has to have their 6A and Sgt's to collect it unless they've changed it.  PA's have to spend 2 years solidly in school, and to get there, you have to be a Sgt Med Tech first.

MM

 

[nickanick]

They do - but they are specialty trades in the medical branch or Senior Med Techs.  PMed IIRC correctly has to have their 6A and Sgt's to collect it unless they've changed it.  PA's have to spend 2 years solidly in school, and to get there, you have to be a Sgt Med Tech first.

MM

Thanks for the reply.
So how long will it take a new recruit to get to spec 1 pay?

 

[medicineman]

I got my WO's after 20 years...if you're switched on and have good bosses, you could get there in 12-15 years.  Unless the mythical pay scale change for the QL5's comes out of the mist in the near future...then about 4-5 years.

MM

 

[nickanick]

I got my WO's after 20 years...if you're switched on and have good bosses, you could get there in 12-15 years.  Unless the mythical pay scale change for the QL5's comes out of the mist in the near future...then about 4-5 years.

MM

4-5 years to spec 1 pay aren't too bad. Besides, 1 year will be primarily training and college studies.
thank so much for the information!

 

[medicineman]

Like I said - depends all upon the mythical pay increase approval.

MM