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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)
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Halifax Tar
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What do you foresee that accomplishing?
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‘Funny’ if people aren’t seeing that for what it was.
Are you saying US is tied to China’s little pinkie and Canada can rightfully scold the US for its closeness to China?
Trump had the CCP’s/UFWD’s leading digital guy there to put China on notice to either give up its majority ‘Golden Share’ of TikTok or face banishment. Don’t believe or even consider, if you don’t want to. Heck, check whatever references you’re comfortable checking. Writing off Trump and/or his back room policy makers as a bunch of redneck/hick luddites is, I suppose, a position.
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Beijing will help us get over it, I’m sure.
Less reliance on a power that can wreck our economy if they so choose.
Diversify and stop relying on a partner that can turn on us whenever they want.
Let’s never be in that position again.
So spend on defence and border but let’s find other opportunities. I’m fine with less America if it means more sovereignty.
Oh I’m sure they’ll try. Isolationism creates vacuums to be filled. So they will try.
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Do you need vaccines if you are in isolation?
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I agree, diversification is a lesson here.
Wow. You really made up a lot of stuff that wasn’t said. lol.
I didn’t once call them red necks. They are however a threat. We should take them seriously.
Canada needs to insulate itself going forward.
A lot of work will need to be done. You guys are definitely on to something.
Get our energy out to tide water, tighten the border to keep illegals and illegal guns out from the US. Shore up defense spending. All for it. Rely on ourselves and not them.
Yes. Vaccum…fat fingers
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You’re right. I apologize for that. I should have separated that out from you and been more general to “those who would think of them as…”
Canada is being hoisted *on its own petard after letting another nation actively attack the integrity of a broad range of public and private institutions, and fail to realize when it is being held to account by another, and then spends more energy pivoting its effort onto those holding it to account point through a variety of tools at their disposal including economic pressure.
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We have always been working against the force of gravity, dragging trade North and South. The old red world of John A, the one built on tariffs, survived until WW2 (arguably until Britain joined the EEC and left the Commonwealth).
We can resurrect those east west connections even if we aren't focusing on Australia and London anymore. Japan to Finland perhaps. India to Turkiye as a possibility.
Diversify but become a lot more self-reliant.
We can do that and still remain on friendly terms with the neighbours to the south.
We can resurrect those east west connections even if we aren't focusing on Australia and London anymore. Japan to Finland perhaps. India to Turkiye as a possibility.
Diversify but become a lot more self-reliant.
We can do that and still remain on friendly terms with the neighbours to the south.
Trump himself is a catalyst, and sort of an ideological centre of gravity. He holds considerable political power in his own right, but I think more importantly for Canada he has kicked the door wide open to enable an ideological takeover of America’s politics by a lot of pretty hard right America-first isolationists. He’ll just ham-fistedly say and do things that kick previously quiet and extreme notions out into the open and get people talking about them.
There are a lot of people who truly do believe in some God-given American exceptionalism, and who have no regard for any of the previously established systems or norms. Trump’s election is embedding them in cabinet and in senior administration roles. We need to recognize that this is a phenomenon that will outlast the man himself and his presidency when it ends in four years. The danger that Canada now faces is not going to decline if the Republicans choose a successor along the same ideological bent. This is an abrupt generational shift in the right wing of America’s political.
Canada’s sovereignty, both economic and physical, is of no intrinsic value to many of them. We’re going to have to work hard to keep it.
There are a lot of people who truly do believe in some God-given American exceptionalism, and who have no regard for any of the previously established systems or norms. Trump’s election is embedding them in cabinet and in senior administration roles. We need to recognize that this is a phenomenon that will outlast the man himself and his presidency when it ends in four years. The danger that Canada now faces is not going to decline if the Republicans choose a successor along the same ideological bent. This is an abrupt generational shift in the right wing of America’s political.
Canada’s sovereignty, both economic and physical, is of no intrinsic value to many of them. We’re going to have to work hard to keep it.
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And on cue, the Laurentians have an answer to our trade woes!
www.theglobeandmail.com
I’m very skeptical that this will work out any better for us.
Opinion: While Trump spurns Canada, China opens the door
Chinese officials have indicated Beijing wants to repair its relationship with Canada to further trade goals
www.theglobeandmail.com
I’m very skeptical that this will work out any better for us.
What’s old is newAnd on cue, the Laurentians have an answer to our trade woes!
Opinion: While Trump spurns Canada, China opens the door
Chinese officials have indicated Beijing wants to repair its relationship with Canada to further trade goals
I’m very skeptical that this will work out any better for us.
Harper's petro-folly: How Canada fumbled its post-Keystone energy vision of a gateway to China
Stephen Harper was in need of a new friend with a big appetite for oil. The Americans just weren’t cutting it
financialpost.com
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I don't think it will just be the Republicans we have to worry about. Biden didn't spend a lot of effort undoing Trump's trade practices. America first is pretty popular right up and down the middle of America. That is one of the things this last election has demonstrated to the Democrats.
And strangely enough, the people that come to America, Black, White, Yellow and Brown, all come because America is America and not their homelands. They want to become Americans and live like Americans, for the most part.
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And yet that last sentence seems to be so difficult for many who recently come to Canada to apply to themselves here in Canada….
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Canada has been chanting diversification for 50 years. Canada has ignored itself and will likely continue to do so.
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It was warm and cosy under the blankets. Maybe we should thank Trump for pulling the covers off.
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The good news is that as a country we're so screwed up that those newcomers are going back home rather than fight our stupidity.
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