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CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Whatever happens I am sure we will weather the storm. Lets see what happens. Hang on it could be a wild ride


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Why are people pretending this is a thing he can unilaterally do? It’s codified into the Canada Elections Act. Is this the week’s new conspiracy theory, Carney will get voted in by the party and then somehow just blow through election law without it being succesfully challenged in court on the strength of a clear legislative requirement?
To go from 4 to 5 would necessitate a change to the Elections Act?
from 5 to 6 a vote of more than 2/3 of the HofC?
 
To go from 4 to 5 would necessitate a change to the Elections Act?
from 5 to 6 a vote of more than 2/3 of the HofC?

4 back to 5 would be passing legislation amending the Elections Act.

Anything over 5 would be amending the Charter, which as a part of the Constitution would require a majority vote in the House, which he Senate, and the legislative assemblies of at least 7/10 provinces representing at least 50% of the population.
 
4 back to 5 would be passing legislation amending the Elections Act.

Anything over 5 would be amending the Charter, which as a part of the Constitution would require a majority vote in the House, which he Senate, and the legislative assemblies of at least 7/10 provinces representing at least 50% of the population.
theres no emergency provision extension anymore?
 
Why are people pretending this is a thing he can unilaterally do? It’s codified into the Canada Elections Act. Is this the week’s new conspiracy theory, Carney will get voted in by the party and then somehow just blow through election law without it being succesfully challenged in court on the strength of a clear legislative requirement?
It takes the same vote to add a year as it would to change the election date from 20 to 27 October to ‘respect’ Diwali…

Not really. The next possible confidence motion would result in the government losing confidence in the house and the GG, as is convention, would dissolve Parliament.

Ummm, you’re certain the Jagmeet & Co. would bite against Carney’s election amendment bill?
 
theres no emergency provision extension anymore?
There’s a limited one to postpone the election, found in s.59 of the Canada Elections Act. It’s not a simple matter of the PM waving his hand and declaring an emergency. It certainly would not achieve what G2G suggested could happen.

It takes the same vote to add a year as it would to change the election date from 20 to 27 October to ‘respect’ Diwali…

But I wasn’t replying to you suggesting a legislative amendment. As a reminder:

And if PM Carney ask for and gets the GG’s approval to extend the Givernment beyond the legislative date for the election as an emergency measure to ‘deal with President Trump’ the tariffs will be further increased…
 
Okay, vote approval, with Royal Assent after HoC and Senate passage…
 
It’s never too late for Canada and Canadians too start focusing on their own national interests and too undertake things that they fully control.

Canada can scrap the planned carbon tax increases that are still scheduled.

Canada can immediately start disassembling interprovincial trade barriers.

Canada can start development of O&G export routes to the coasts.

Canada can make itself more attractive to foreign investment.

Canada can spend more on defence.

Canada can take national security more seriously.

No matter how much Canadians dislike Trump, Canada can’t make him do anything.

We can either spend our efforts fighting the US in a trade war, where is winning is us remaining as vulnerable as before or we spend our efforts building our own internal strength and building our global capacity.

I expect we will expend our efforts fighting the US while ignoring any attempts to make our selves more resilient and diversified.

It’s fun watching Canadians realize the decisions of the last decade left us in a very vulnerable position. Now this country is pissed that someone noticed we are the sick old animal to be taken down by the predator. Good job everyone!
 
Government of Canada announces its plan to strengthen border security and our immigration system - Canada.ca

Ambrose is right about the government’s lack of focus on productivity through the years. But she also spends the last minute of the clip complaining about the government having nothing to say about fentanyl and asking why can’t Canada at least try to address the issue. She must have completely missed or chooses to ignore the fact that the 1st pillar of the 5 pillar $1.3 Billion border and immigration plan released last month is all about new measures to tackle fentanyl and fentanyl precursors.

Canada Gazette, Part 2, Volume 157, Number 12: Regulations Amending the Precursor Control Regulations (Novel Fentanyl Precursors)

And the tackling of fentanyl precursors is not a new last minute thing based on Trump’s recent complaints. New fentanyl precursors are regularly banned or restricted as they are discovered, such as a recent update in 2023.
 
Perhaps somebody better versed in economics than me can answer this.

If Trump runs with a strong dollar policy, meaning the USD gains value against all other currencies then wouldn't that drive the price of imports down? If he drives the price of imports down then he can afford to apply tariffs on imports without driving prices and inflation up, it seems to me.

Also, a strong dollar would tend to discourage exports, making more domestically produced material available for the domestic market.
 
Perhaps somebody better versed in economics than me can answer this.

If Trump runs with a strong dollar policy, meaning the USD gains value against all other currencies then wouldn't that drive the price of imports down? If he drives the price of imports down then he can afford to apply tariffs on imports without driving prices and inflation up, it seems to me.

Also, a strong dollar would tend to discourage exports, making more domestically produced material available for the domestic market.
It’s very much a simplification, but yes, the strong U.S. dollar can work that way.
 
I don’t think Trump cares which party is in power. But if regime change really is the end game, then he has just jumped foreign interference to a whole new level in Canada.
On the first point, I don’t *think it’s the party specifically, but the track record of big talk with minimal action while China invasively works to compromise Canadian institution.

Second point is actually worthy of consideration. The difference being of course the influence is any other than hidden, and there seems not to be a country in the planet that isn’t targeted by him.
 
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Yes. His stated intent of hitting the whole world does further suggest that this is not about the person or party in power.
 
I don’t think Trump cares which party is in power. But if regime change really is the end game, then he has just jumped foreign interference to a whole new level in Canada.
Agreed. He’s seeking to acquire, extract, and exploit wealth. He’s hiding that behind a veneer thinner than the ass on a pair of 90s combats. I don’t believe he cares who the PM is or what party governs; he’s not a statesman, he’s more akin to an old school robber baron trying to cement an industrial monopoly. Who, precisely, is leading Canada is barely of notice and certainly below his level of care. Our policies only matter inasmuch as they give him an easier political excuse for actions that are purely self-motivated.

It’s not like he’s hiding any of this. People on our side who don’t want to believe it are just burying their heads.

He’ll make more positive noises to those who flatter or appease him, sure, but his goals are what they are. Canada is like a small business that he sees as unnecessarily competing with his own larger one. He wants to drive us out or acquire us. This is consistent with what he’s actually doing.

We’re seeing this, understandably, through a domestic lens- but he’s going after much of the world this way.

Viewed through a lens of a business executive bullying his way to commercial and industrial supremacy, unconstrained by considerations like antitrust laws, his rhetoric and actions fit an ugly but understandable pattern. Some people have been keen to point out that he’s an outsider, he’s not a politician, etc. that’s right- so look at what he has been and shift the way you’re trying to see the pattern.
 
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