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CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Remembering that the USA has 9 times the population of Canada....winning....

Canadian unemployment rate is 6.8% to 6.9%
US unemployment is 4.4% (December 2025)

Canada adds more jobs each month because our population and labour force are growing fast, mainly through immigration.
 
Canadian unemployment rate is 6.8% to 6.9%
US unemployment is 4.4% (December 2025)

Canada adds more jobs each month because our population and labour force are growing fast, mainly through immigration.
Canada shrunk in population last year.

Immigration isn't a factor.
 
Canada shrunk in population last year.

Immigration isn't a factor.
The reduction mostly came from non-permanent residents, especially international students and temporary workers. Their numbers fell faster than new arrivals.

Canada’s job growth is closely tied to immigration. Even if the overall population shrinks slightly, for exmaple when temporary residents leave, the labour force can still grow because new permanent residents and workers enter the job market.

These new entrants create demand for jobs, so businesses hire to accommodate both them and the existing workforce. This is why Canada can add more jobs per month than the US. That includes during periods of slow or slightly negative population growth.
 
Maybe they'll also decide the tariffs levied by Reagan, Bush and Nixon were also illegal.
Unless those tariffs were levied claiming authority under the IEEPA (Nixon's could not have been, since the act was passed in 1977), they are irrelevant to the matter before the USSC.
 
Canadian unemployment rate is 6.8% to 6.9%
US unemployment is 4.4% (December 2025)

Canada adds more jobs each month because our population and labour force are growing fast, mainly through immigration.
Bear in mind we have a significantly higher labour force participation rate than the U.S. Unemployment rates count those who are not working but are looking for work. Those who aren’t looking for work (retired, disabled, just gave up looking) aren’t counted. Canada has 65.4% labour participation age 15 or older; the U.S. is at 62.4%. So, while our unemployment rate is 2.4% higher per your figures, we have a larger overall percentage of our working age population employed, by part of a percent.
 
The reduction mostly came from non-permanent residents, especially international students and temporary workers. Their numbers fell faster than new arrivals.

Canada’s job growth is closely tied to immigration. Even if the overall population shrinks slightly, for exmaple when temporary residents leave, the labour force can still grow because new permanent residents and workers enter the job market.

These new entrants create demand for jobs, so businesses hire to accommodate both them and the existing workforce. This is why Canada can add more jobs per month than the US. That includes during periods of slow or slightly negative population growth.
If this were the case Canada would have outpaced the US in job growth during the immigration surge post COVID.

Hint, we did not.

The US job market is absolutely pathetic since liberation Day because tariffs cause drag on an economy. That drag is caused by higher input costs, especially for stuff America cannot replace internally.

Non of this "oh it's immigration" nonsense. Since liberation Day Canada has outpaced the USA in job growth. Before liberation Day America, with its much larger job market was way ahead on both a per capita basis and in absolute numbers.

That's it. That's the divergence. It's not rocket science, it's not about other factors.

It's tariffs.
 
The higher job numbers in Canada are mostly due to labour-force growth from immigration and population changes, as well as business hiring to meet domestic demand.
Even if thats true, the the fact that Canada, a country that is 9 times smaller than the USA outpaced it in job growth since the liberation Day tariffs means the corresponding pathetic US job numbers are due to the tariffs

Two things can be true.

The tariffs were a generationally stupid own goal by the USA.
 
The higher job numbers in Canada are mostly due to labour-force growth from immigration and population changes, as well as business hiring to meet domestic demand.

And it's getting weird out there so hang onto your seats....


Canada could lose jobs and still see unemployment fall. Here's why

The job market's sending mixed signals — and economists say things are about to get weirder

 
Our labour market will shrink due to immigration dropping.

This was the logical conclusion of throttling down immigration and is actually welcome. Once housing and healthcare can stabilize, Canada can look at increasing immigration again.
 
Have a read of the article I posted on Wednesday on the fact that in 2025 and 2026 we will have 2.1m people in this country have their work visa expire with no renewal and that they must all leave Canada within a few months after this occurring.
In 2026 1.4m of the 2.1m will expire, 55% of the 1.4m by June of 2026.
IF, a big IF, all of these people leave, there should be a massive downward spike in unemployment and a large uptick in the employment % of the population occurring.
This will have large, unknown, ripple effects across the entire country - with rent prices and housing availability being just two of them.
 
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