CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Good2Golf]

I’m still wrapping my head around the U.S. mental gymnastics to believe that this is an evil job-stealing Canadian foreign automobile worthy of higher than the majority of other nations on the planet (and the penguins) tariffs…

 

[Furniture]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091218798200107280

You know Carney is doing well when Brian Lilley, I repeat, Brian....Lilley....is standing with him.

I wasn't happy when he won. I wasn't happy when he politicked to gain a majority.

That said, I am glad that he seems to be doing the right thing, for the right reasons as PM.

PMMC might manage to make me a LPC supporter, if he can bring the whole party around to his way of seeing/doing things.

 

[Seyek]

For clarity, USMCA (CUSMA to us) has that section already. It’s nothing new. What was new was Carney suddenly announcing that he had signed a trade deal with a non-Party to allow Chinese vehicles into the market. Yes, he did that to overcome Chinese tariffs on canola, potash and other goods. But it’s an example of Canada being forced to breach an agreement that was already breached by the USA, to facilitate agricultural and resource trade that was essentially embargoed by China.

Again, all sides in this are outright liars and manipulators. Almost everything Trump does is a violation of USMCA. Almost everything we do to protect our economy from Trump is a violation of USMCA.

The most damaging thing Carney could have done is get into bed with China. And he did that with no hesitation because China manipulated a bad situation between Canada and the USA.

It’s all insane.

We didn't enter a free trade agreement with China. We made a specific targeted deal to revert our tariffs on Chinese vehicles of 100%, implemented alongside the US in late 2024, back to the previous amount of 6.1%, which had been in effect when CUSMA was signed. Nothing was violated, and it was within both the spirit and letter of the agreement.

EDIT: Prior to the 100% tariff, there was also no quota on Chinese vehicle imports. Our CUSMA deal with Trump involved less restriction on Chinese imports than it does now.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Short & sweet initial response from POTUS47 via the socials - for now, anyway ....

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

The country to our south is more involved with China, and is even more fractured along political lines, with environmental regulation between states far more divergent than Canada's policies vs. America's national ones.

I'm also pretty sure that attacking people is the worst way to get them to change... But I'm sure the 9D chess the administration is playing is going to work this time. It's totally not a distraction from their other problems, mostly self-inflicted.

Any Canadian arguing for more American hegemonic control of Canada is walking a very thin line.

Where did I say anywhere that I am on Team America?

Also, applying consequences is the best way to shape behaviour. It makes people angry, they will yell and scream but they will do it while cursing you under their breath.

Well apparently the behaviour they wanted to change was our capacity to make independent policy decisions. While that may fill you with glee it doesnt do it for me.

Independent decisions that go against their interests, yes. It's called realpolitik.

It doesn't fill me with glee but I understand what their intentions are. I don't actually like many of our Current Govt's policies anyways so having an outside power shape our Govt towards a different direction is actually beneficial in some ways.

It improved the CAFs coffers for instance.