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CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Canada supplies 57-60% of US oil imports. We don't have to shut down our supply, but if we were to enter a "maintenance cycle" for the next eight weeks, that might reduce our output.
Or, export tariffs on the USA. Send every dollar to the oil companies.

Canadian oil companies are spared the fallout, Americans pay even more at the pump.
 
And that is why North West Ontario feels so alienated from Queen's Park.

Province of NW Ontario?

Not a Constitutional SME.

But, if feeling so alienated from Queen's Park , even separating - 243 square miles - of real estate from it would require an amendment to the Constitution of Canada. The constitutional amendment would require resolutions from the House of Commons of Canada and the  Senate of Canada and resolutions from the legislative bodies of 7 of the provinces representing at least 50% of the population of Canada.
 
Does anyone have a decent understanding of Spanish and have any idea how this all is being reported in Mexico over the last 3 days?

Are they laughing at us or are they preparing for their turn in all this.
You can bet Mexico has been mapping the contours of the ditches. What’s more, Trump appears to enjoy Sheinbaum. Carney, not so much.

Looks like Damien Lewis might be loading up on ice cream and cupcakes for the sequel “Run This Province: Kiss my Fat Ass”.
 
The NYT weighs in.


Still speculation on what went on in the dying hours.

I doubt we'll ever know.

Also archived here in case of a paywall.

Also, today's NYT podcast features their Canada bureau chief talking about the latest on this file.
 
What a child.

We should get Dougie Ford to just announce that effective immediately that the Michigan UP is now Canadian territory and we're putting tolls on the Mackinac Bridge and the new US/Canadian border is now at 45N. If Trump can make unilateral idiotic statements about territory we can unleash Dougie or Wab to launch the trolling war!
I disagree. We should show the world that we're the professionals. We're on message. That we are confident we'll win. It helps our brand in the States and abroad. That said, some more jabs at Donald to really make him look dumb might be warranted.

"Did Natalie suggest that, Donnie?"
 
I disagree. We should show the world that we're the professionals. We're on message. That we are confident we'll win. It helps our brand in the States and abroad. That said, some more jabs at Donald to really make him look dumb might be warranted.

"Did Natalie suggest that, Donnie?"
Tell him he can rename it, if he can find it on a map without help

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I was listening to The Line yesterday - their show from Friday when we were all expecting deal details within hours and it hadn’t blown up yet. Matt Gurney reminded that nearly a year ago they asked Trump supporters to write in with what would be their ‘line in the sand’ to stop supporting Trump. He said they’ll be revisiting that sometime in the next month. Should be good..

Trump renaming Lake Ontario for his fan base could actually have the amusing side effect of short circuiting the brains of some of his remaining supporters up here; or at least forcing more of them to more explicitly pick a side.
 
So he's aware of how incredibly unwise a lot of his tariffs are.

Unfortunately for him aluminum can't be piped to bypass the mess he's created over in the middle east.

[CBC]Trump Laments Lack of US Aluminum Amid Trade Row With Canada

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When you stop looking at this from a benefiting America stance and start looking at it from a benefiting Trump stance things make a lot more sense.

My personal belief is that Trump is pissed with America for almost jailing him, and like a vindictive narcissist he is determined to burn down everything else around him well profiting.

Tariffs? Him and all his buddies make a ton of money from them (especially by manipulating the stock market) even if they screw the American public. Even if they are found illegal and the government has to refund the cash it goes to the corporations not the individuals who paid the higher prices. All funded by the American taxpayer who aren’t the richest Americans anymore.
 
When you stop looking at this from a benefiting America stance and start looking at it from a benefiting Trump stance things make a lot more sense.

My personal belief is that Trump is pissed with America for almost jailing him, and like a vindictive narcissist he is determined to burn down everything else around him well profiting.

Tariffs? Him and all his buddies make a ton of money from them (especially by manipulating the stock market) even if they screw the American public. Even if they are found illegal and the government has to refund the cash it goes to the corporations not the individuals who paid the higher prices. All funded by the American taxpayer who aren’t the richest Americans anymore.
I chose to believe he is the Manchurian Candidate - destroying the US and NATO, while strengthening our enemies.
 
I was listening to The Line yesterday - their show from Friday when we were all expecting deal details within hours and it hadn’t blown up yet. Matt Gurney reminded that nearly a year ago they asked Trump supporters to write in with what would be their ‘line in the sand’ to stop supporting Trump.
I listen to that podcast and then the news broke that the deal fell apart. I was like that aged like milk.

Looking forward to the next iteration that's for sure
 
I chose to believe he is the Manchurian Candidate - destroying the US and NATO, while strengthening our enemies.
Personally I think thats ascribing malice when stupidity suffices. Idiots are abundant everywhere but in US anti-intellectual culture its almost celebrated, ie the rugged individual saying "professionals be damned" and striking it out on their own. My realization in all this after watching two years of self-immolation is that 40-45% of Americans are braindead and probably beyond saving. Theyre comfortable with banana republic corruption, tin pot dictator proclamations and Orwellian Newspeak.
 
I listen to that podcast and then the news broke that the deal fell apart. I was like that aged like milk.

Looking forward to the next iteration that's for sure

Same here... Looking forward to the next one! And the Curse of Politics.

They should be... animated.
 
Once again counter tariff strategy doesnt include energy. Personally I think it should in some way. The same crowd who seemed die hard about turning off the taps ti BC and ontario are completely against that to the US which I find hypocritical. Every industry except energy is being hurt hard by this, with US energy reserves falling, we could make them feel pain with targeted measures.
 
The spirit is there, but probably not time to go for the nuclear option just yet Yves.

Wouldn't this grind F-35 production to a halt with some of the parts being produced here in Canada?

 
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