Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[ytz]

Only in this case, the survey folks asked just that
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Again. It's easy to say "cut" without specifics.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I have zero faith in ANY Political Party - in Canada or elsewhere.

I do have some faith in certain Politicians - if just to do what they are comfortable with.
Your PM has come from an arena where idiots generally are cut loose quickly.
I suspect he will let any politician, PS or Military member go with no remorse, that he feels will hurt his chance for success.

You wouldn't know it by his cabinet picks. All he did was promote a bunch of losers to higher positions.

Case in point

He represented and expedited the immigration of two boatloads of suspected Tamil Tigers. Now as Minister of Public Safety, he has recused himself from anything to do with the Tamils, because of his obvious bias and connections. A Min of PS that can't work the files of a listed terrorist group. What part of Carney's grand plan does that fall into?

Public safety minister asks officials to ‘screen’ him from conflict of interest - National | Globalnews.ca

Gary Anandasangaree said he wanted to ensure there was 'no perception' of conflict surrounding his handling of 'national security issues relating to the Tamil community.'

globalnews.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I think we need at least a year to make that call.

But he is following the time honored LPC tradition of delivering announcements.

#otherpoplesexpectations

In a year, it'll probably be too late to reverse any damage.

The best we can hope for is a no confidence vote in the next session then another election.

 

[KevinB]

You wouldn't know it by his cabinet picks. All he did was promote a bunch of losers to higher positions.

Case in point

He represented and expedited the immigration of two boatloads of suspected Tamil Tigers. Now as Minister of Public Safety, he has recused himself from anything to do with the Tamils, because of his obvious bias and connections. A Min of PS that can't work the files of a listed terrorist group. What part of Carney's grand plan does that fall into?

Public safety minister asks officials to ‘screen’ him from conflict of interest - National | Globalnews.ca

Gary Anandasangaree said he wanted to ensure there was 'no perception' of conflict surrounding his handling of 'national security issues relating to the Tamil community.'

globalnews.ca

I get you hate Liberals -- I am not a fan either.

But I think you should at least allow him the rope, and the time to hang himself before doing it for him.

As for the Min of PS - heck at least he recused himself - main of JT's cabinet wouldn't have...

 

[Czech_pivo]

The proof is in the pudding. Carney has been long on promises and plans, but not so much on implementation or action. It's amazing, being such a financial whiz, that he can make promises to spend billions when he doesn't even have a budget. Something sorely needed to determine how our meager, moth filled purse can handle these huge expenditures.

No one who's been a GS Exec and Governor of the Bank of Canada and England would just throw a budget together over the course of 2-3 months.....fail to plan, plan to fail.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I get you hate Liberals -- I am not a fan either.

But I think you should at least allow him the rope, and the time to hang himself before doing it for him.

As for the Min of PS - heck at least he recused himself - main of JT's cabinet wouldn't have...

Sorry Kev, being a ignorant, biased putz is not an excuse.

First impressions count. He's already destroyed his portfolio. Completely ignorant of the gun theft file and then proving he's a sympathiser of a listed terrorist group = zero credibility.

Whether I dislike lieberals or not, is beside the point. The guy is a dumpster fire.

 

[Jarnhamar]

No one who's been a GS Exec and Governor of the Bank of Canada and England would just throw a budget together over the course of 2-3 months.....fail to plan, plan to fail.

Harper did in under 3 months. I believe there was a $10B give or take surplus at the end of the year too.

 

[KevinB]

Harper did in under 3 months. I believe there was a $10B give or take surplus at the end of the year too.

Not the flex you think it is.
That just means he taxed more than he had planed for.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Not the flex you think it is.
That just means he taxed more than he had planed for.

I read Harper implemented tax cuts in his 2006 Budget including reducing GST.
Internet is saying there were 29 other tax cuts in the 2006 budget.

 

[quadrapiper]

Depends, I thought that I read somewhere from the CDS that they are doing all they can to expand intake throughput now.

From a purely "amble around Esquimalt and Comox" assessment, and an assumption that everywhere else is much the same: any significant increase in throughput needs to be led with enormous investment in quarters.

 

[Remius]

Not the flex you think it is.
That just means he taxed more than he had planed for.

And came off of Paul Martin’s economic record.

Concerns about a fall budget is pretty funny considering the CPC weren’t dropping a budget for at least 100 days.

If one can’t read the main and supplementary estimates then a budget isn’t going to be much help to you either beyond partisan politics.

No budget was bad. A fall budget is fine.

 

[PrairieFella]

And came off of Paul Martin’s economic record.

Concerns about a fall budget is pretty funny considering the CPC weren’t dropping a budget for at least 100 days.

If one can’t read the main and supplementary estimates then a budget isn’t going to be much help to you either beyond partisan politics.

No budget was bad. A fall budget is fine.

At the end of the day, partisanship rules. It hasn't even been a hundred days yet.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Harper did in under 3 months. I believe there was a $10B give or take surplus at the end of the year too.

He also oversaw Freeland's budget. That would be a big starting point. He knew he was going to be leader, he knew a budget would be called for, but did absolutely nothing to put a committee and plan in place. There is no excuse why Carney can't produce a budget.

Well, unless he just wants to spend billions of dollars, without oversight.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If one can’t read the main and supplementary estimates then a budget isn’t going to be much help to you either beyond partisan politics.

No budget was bad. A fall budget is fine.

Mentioned up thread:

Estimates only cover planned spending, not revenues, deficits, or economic assumptions.

Estimates don’t explain why money is being spent or the policy goals behind, they just show numbers.

The budget is a public-facing document that:
1. provides narrative explanations and justifications;
2. helps voters understand government choices; and
3. increases accountability.

Estimates are technical and hard to interpret without context, limiting public understanding.

A well thought-out spring budget would:
1. reassure credit rating agencies;
2. signal stability to investors and businesses; and
3. reduce uncertainty about tax or fiscal changes.

Delaying the budget may lead to speculation and reduce confidence in government planning.


And according to the internets most G7 countries release their budgets in the first quarter.

I agree with your sentiment that a fall budget is fine all things considered.

It's not like it really matters at the end of the day with our government.

 

[Remius]

Mentioned up thread:

If there is no budget by Jan I’ll be onside and concerned.

Otherwise it’s just the normal noise from the other side of the aisle.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

At the end of the day, partisanship rules. It hasn't even been a hundred days yet.

A hundred days? Under two succesive liberal governments, we've not had a budget in 439 days and we have the same finacial genius holding this one up that held up trudeau's. Even freeland didn’t have the stomach to table his last POS.

 

[Photopilot]

I'm in a weird niche specialty where I think I may be one of the only ones in the CAF (along with a few DND civilians) but it's in a pretty relevant life safety area as well as some combat recoverability for ships.

I'd love to pass along a lot of that SME knowledge, but there is no one else in the pipeline so aside from the odd sidebar probably going to get lost at some point. The folks I learned from are pretty much retired or gone, so a lot of it we're just paying a lot of other people to do, or relearning expensive lessons for things we've already gone through.

Navy_Pete you are looking at this all wrong, you have set yourself up to come back as a consultant at $300/hour.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Harper did in under 3 months. I believe there was a $10B give or take surplus at the end of the year too.

Understood.

But to compare 2006 vs 2025 in terms of economy, US President, world events, etc is like comparing a strawberry to a watermelon - both are fruits, both have seeds, both taste great and both contains large % of water in the overall makeup - but that's where the comparisons stop.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If there is no budget by Jan I’ll be onside and concerned.

Otherwise it’s just the normal noise from the other side of the aisle.

Yeah. I don't think anything would really happen if Carney just fucked off the budget.
The LPC went over the deficit by 22 billion dollars and everyone just shrugged.

People think they care because the news articles they read say "So and so did this thing, and this is why you should care".

 

[dapaterson]

Navy_Pete you are looking at this all wrong, you have set yourself up to come back as a consultant at $300/hour.

Billed at $300/hour by the consulting company, after they take their percentage, closer to $80/ hour take home, before benefits or taxes...