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Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

While true, the ARes makes up the bulk of the PRes. There are currently 30k PRes members, 20.5k of which are the ARes, almost 5k are the rangers. 2k Air Res, and 4.4k NavRes. If you scale that ratio to 100k Pres, that is 66K ARes members, 16.6K Rangers, 4k Air Res, and 14.6k Nav Res.
Right now the number being tossed arund would be authorizing ARes units to 250 members or so, times 185 units across the country, this would give us a min of 46,250 for the ARes. If the goal is 100k, then this would mean a significant expansion of the other Reserve elements
 
Right now the number being tossed arund would be authorizing ARes units to 250 members or so, times 185 units across the country, this would give us a min of 46,250 for the ARes. If the goal is 100k, then this would mean a significant expansion of the other Reserve elements
250 is doable in Edmonton, Van, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Montreal, Halifax, etc but that might be tough for even mid sized cities like Regina, Kelowna, Brockville, etc. It'll be interesting to see how they plan to get there in terms of equipment, training and recruiting.
 
Right now the number being tossed arund would be authorizing ARes units to 250 members or so, times 185 units across the country, this would give us a min of 46,250 for the ARes. If the goal is 100k, then this would mean a significant expansion of the other Reserve elements

Without a restructuring of the Reserve, even a full success of all ARes units having 250 pers won’t make the Army fit for its purpose as defined by Divisional level combat.
We would have cbt Bdes with no enablers or support.
 
Without a restructuring of the Reserve, even a full success of all ARes units having 250 pers won’t make the Army fit for its purpose as defined by Divisional level combat.
We would have cbt Bdes with no enablers or support.
Purely in terms of structure, what needs to change in your opinion. Im curious to hear a different perspective from the usual suspects positing ideas here.
 
Purely in terms of structure, what needs to change in your opinion. Im curious to hear a different perspective from the usual suspects positing ideas here.
I don't know if I count as a usual suspect, but I would say we have a lot of overhead based on geography and nostalgia within our reserve force, specific to the Combat Arms.

The ARes side of the RCCS has decentralized a lot of its Signals Regiments, so that the Sqn and Tp level footprints can be across vast expanses of Canada without increasing overhead. I would love to see Reserve regiments amalgamated and have smaller footprints be reduced to subunit size if they cannot parade a full battalion between them.
 
Right now the number being tossed arund would be authorizing ARes units to 250 members or so, times 185 units across the country, this would give us a min of 46,250 for the ARes. If the goal is 100k, then this would mean a significant expansion of the other Reserve elements

Many units already have an authorized strength close to that. A lot of infantry reserve regiments, on the books, have an authorized strength of 1 Unit HQ (6), 1 HQ & Svcs Company (35) 1 rifle company (128), 1 or 2 additional rifle platoons (35 or 70), and 1 Rifle company clerk (1), which totals 240 all ranks. So going to 250 isn't really a big deal.

Some have more, the Royal regiment of Canada has an additional rifle platoon on their establishment, for 275 all ranks.
 
Simply put in my mind the reserves need to be structured to provide the units and formations for echelons above Bde and Div.

Those combat support and combat service support elements that are rarely needed in peacetime but will be needed in war to support a division or two division corps.

It doesn’t mean that the reserves should not have a armoured or infantry Bde but it means they also need to provide the Div and Corps level Fires bdes, engineer Bdes, sustainment Bdes, air defence units, MP battalions, tank Tn battalions, pipeline companies etc.

Honestly my opinions don’t differ much from some of the usual suspects.
 
Those combat support and combat service support elements that are rarely needed in peacetime but will be needed in war to support a division or two division corps.
Here lies a problem of a lack of understanding of what gets brought to the table in peace time by CSS. Service battalion in DOM ops still needs to provide cooks, maintenance on generators, water pumps, etc. Provide welding and cutting services, field wiring, warehouse services, driving, etc

CSS provides a lot to the table in peace time, the ARes just isn't optimized to make use of those skills to max benefit
 
Here lies a problem of a lack of understanding of what gets brought to the table in peace time by CSS. Service battalion in DOM ops still needs to provide cooks, maintenance on generators, water pumps, etc. Provide welding and cutting services, field wiring, warehouse services, driving, etc

CSS provides a lot to the table in peace time, the ARes just isn't optimized to make use of those skills to max benefit

That’s true but not quite what I mean. Our current situation has us culminating at unit 1st line with some 2nd line in a CBG.

We don’t have a Tn battalion whose sole job is to move cargo from the theatre SPOD/APOD to the Divisional delivery point.

We don’t have a Tank transport Bn that can lift a units worth of heavy armour in one go.

We don’t have a bridging Bn that can put in several line of communication bridges.

These capabilities all exist but not at the scale that echelons above Bde and Div call for.

They are certainly useful for domestic stuff but usually not at the same scale as a Div level LSCO fight. Nor are they routinely needed by that Div in peacetime for routine exercises and operations below Bde level.
 
Many units already have an authorized strength close to that. A lot of infantry reserve regiments, on the books, have an authorized strength of 1 Unit HQ (6), 1 HQ & Svcs Company (35) 1 rifle company (128), 1 or 2 additional rifle platoons (35 or 70), and 1 Rifle company clerk (1), which totals 240 all ranks. So going to 250 isn't really a big deal.

Some have more, the Royal regiment of Canada has an additional rifle platoon on their establishment, for 275 all ranks.

Correct. The issue is also SIP numbers and training capacity.

We can authorize whatever strength we want but unless there is the training capacity we won’t get far.
 
That’s true but not quite what I mean. Our current situation has us culminating at unit 1st line with some 2nd line in a CBG.

We don’t have a Tn battalion whose sole job is to move cargo from the theatre SPOD/APOD to the Divisional delivery point.

We don’t have a Tank transport Bn that can lift a units worth of heavy armour in one go.

We don’t have a bridging Bn that can put in several line of communication bridges.

These capabilities all exist but not at the scale that echelons above Bde and Div call for.

They are certainly useful for domestic stuff but usually not at the same scale as a Div level LSCO fight. Nor are they routinely needed by that Div in peacetime for routine exercises and operations below Bde level.
fair, and these are elements that a divisional sustainment brigade (except the engineering) will need to bring to the table, with a TN battalion, supply battalion, maintenance battalion, etc
 
If we are serious about Div level then we need the echelon above Div, some form of theatre level assets.
The Div level units you list will be supporting forward from the Div support area. We will need additional assets moving things from the theatre APOD/SPOD to the DSA.
That’s where I see the reserve CSS units fitting into an Army level Force Enhancement plan.
 
Please no.
I've kept quiet on this one as I expect everyone knows my thoughts anyway and this whole thing sounds very preliminary.

On the div commander issue it's really quite simple; if there is a 7 Div, then there will be a div commander. The question is BGen or MGen and RegF v ARes? There already is an ARes BGen staff officer at Army HQ as Director General Army Reserve (I think the title has changed since my time). There's really no use for that position if all the ARes comes under one div commander.
We did that in Winnipeg in 2010 or so, it worked for a bit then the units were tactically ungrouped.

What needs to happen a few regiments need to be reduced to Nil Strength.
The former doesn't work well and the later doesn't work at all. In 1964/5 we had the last real Militia reorganization (everything since then has been putting lipstick on a pig). The Suttie Commission recommended, amongst other things a reduction of units. To avoid the term disbandment the Supplementary Order of Battle was created and specific units retired there. The people were moved into units that continued. This had a temporary effect as the government also assigned many units national survival roles (the Snakes and Ladders folks) and limited funding as general force reductions came with Unification and other force reduction schemes. The end result was a near crash and burn for the Militia as thousands voted with their feet and quit.
3. The Continental Division will be domestic operations but not warfighting. I would not expect it to be thought of as having any role in the defence of North America. It’s fires and floods. Its war fighting function will be individual augmentation to the Reg Force.
I was a young Militia gunner when National Survival was introduced in the 1960s. The trauma of what was now third tier military service was profound. I came through a recruit troop of roughly 40-50 people when the reorganization was announced. Within a month of the announcement there were 5 of us left. We'd all joined to be gunners and not rubble clearers. And yes. We were phoney about it. We did zero national survival training but kept up gunnery training and even got a few live rounds made available for firing at Meaford. By the time I transferred to the RegF in 1969 the national survival concept was completely abandoned.

My personal take-away from the experience is that the vast majority of young kids who join the army reserves do so to do military things; hands on stuff that includes weapons and equipment. If you want to have a civil defence force, create it as a separate agency and let those people inspired to do search and rescue concentrate on that alone with the right training and gear.
Purely in terms of structure, what needs to change in your opinion. Im curious to hear a different perspective from the usual suspects positing ideas here.
I'm one of the usual suspects and have made my position clear - it's 30/70 units and the like. Creating a reserve division is just another lipstick on a pig transformation. It does not move any yard posts. Moving the yardsticks is expensive in both full-time personnel and equipment. You can cut units all you want and you can amalgamate units all you want but you won't create anything better than what is there now until there is real adult full-time leadership right down to the LCol and CWO unit level, proper equipment and budgeting, a sound role and the appropriate individual and collective training supported by a workable administrative system (largely staffed by full-timers) and a proper personnel program that accounts for the soldiers family life and civilian employment by way of proper legislation and policies. Add in a practical recruiting system and the right incentives for joining and retention and you might, after several years be able to field formed sub-units and maybe in a decade a formed unit.

What I'm sensing is coming out of the army at this time is a big push to create a viable RegF with the usual sloughing off of the reserves as a bridge too far to cross. Sad.

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This is exactly the sort of stuff I have talked about before - harnessing the knowledge that exists at the U of Waterloo and its Physics programme to further build out our defence industry and grown some products here that we can market and sell around the world.
This is ground breaking.

 
Here lies a problem of a lack of understanding of what gets brought to the table in peace time by CSS. Service battalion in DOM ops still needs to provide cooks, maintenance on generators, water pumps, etc. Provide welding and cutting services, field wiring, warehouse services, driving, etc

CSS provides a lot to the table in peace time, the ARes just isn't optimized to make use of those skills to max benefit
Reserve Support units have been gutted of capability and rarely get a chance to work with other units, outside of the vehicle recovery teams. Beef up the support units, have a bunch of Class B positions to help the other Reserve units maintain kit, fund training days so that the Support battalion can support them in the field.
 
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