Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[foresterab]

I couldn't help but notice that your list of schools are all universities. Both Heddle, here in Ontario, and Seaspan for BC have teamed up with community colleges to train future employees. Most of the trades I have read about on these pages are skills related. Surely a little coordination with the colleges could establish and maintain a training syllabus that would meet your needs as well as industry's.

100% agree. There are many colleges and technical schools around the country that also offer remote education. Some I really question what they're teaching but many others are solid, fundamental courses.

Something more within my lane is the number of Emergency Response/Preparedness courses being offered by colleges. While it's another good coffee on the course content within I would also argue this is a subject stream that for those CAF members who have deployed on OP LENTUS may be given partial course credit for dependent upon role/duration/experience. If they can find a college to recognize some of this experience then the CAF member might be 20% or 40% done their college education prior to hitting the books.

Or to look at it from a trades perspective. Many tradespeople I know did not attend school for Year 1 education but challenged the exam based upon experience already gained as entry level help. Year 2/3 and Red Seal exam course work is where the formal education came in.

 

[Kirkhill]

How about teaming up with charter schools for basic military training? Even one year long class in the senior year might create some usefully advanced volunteers.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Funny how the people who are responsible for the hull surveys, and determining PM are the same ones to gain from the lack of structural and systems maintenance.
One can say all they want about the ships are old, this costs to much, that costs to much. Fixing Hulls and replacing pipework is nothing new and has been done for decades. There is no excuse for hulls to be so corroded/ worn thin that a hammer goes through it.
Those in charge of the PM program should be fired and then charged with negligence.

How ever complex performing hull work and pipework is, it can and has been done. Jobs more complex and harder have been done. Negligence is the case. I have heard the story, it was far down in the hull and not regularly accessed. All the more reason to be properly inspected, NDT and surveyed.
But don't worry, members and supporters will continue to come up with excuses for systematic failures that should have been avoided. But they were not.

If the companies I worked for were run like the "experts in NDHQ and support services" they would all have been shut down days after opening.

That's not how any of that works; the hull surveys are done by trained and experienced personnel who work for DND, and similar to piping.

You can only do a lot of it when the ship is out of the water, and paint has been blasted off. When the 5 year PM gets extended to 8 years, surveys get pushed, and previous DWPs got cut short for several cycles, this is the result.

Same as piping, you need the systems to be significantly isolated and drained down, which is hard to do if the maintenance periods are always cut short, and the systems are never able to take off line due to ops tempo.

These ships have been ridden hard and put away wet their entire life, with PM and CM not completed due to under resourcing and conflict with ops, but thanks for the insight from the peanut galleries.