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Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

I didn't say paid vacation. And if you are hourly you don't get paid holidays. You work them or you don't. If its a salary then that's different.
That is incorrect. ESA mandates vacation pay regardless of payment stream. 2 weeks time /4% pay for first 5 years, 3 weeks / 6% after. There can be a spread with additional unpaid time, but hourly definitely gets vacation.
 
76k and 5 weeks vacation is not good for the Kingston metro area?
Thats not good pay for most technicians jobs, let alone instructors. Need a time machine for that to be good wages.

Part time teachers at a college make way more.
And yet, there are literally hundreds of thousands of people living within an hour, many/most making less.

Recruiting civilians living local to a base isnt the same as transfering in transient service members that have to start from scratch
Yes there is, but do they have the skill set you need? Those that do are going to demand much more in wage or alternatively I question the quality you’re going to receive for that price.
 
I didn't say paid vacation. And if you are hourly you don't get paid holidays. You work them or you don't. If its a salary then that's different.

I was a public servant EG7, paid hourly, and knew what my annual wage was because I had a contract to work 37.5 hours per week.
I definitely got paid for holidays. If you are trying to say otherwise you are a tedious pedant.
 
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USANG visits Danish Homeguard.

Take-away:

"The whole idea of ‘catching more flies with honey than vinegar’ kept coming to mind."


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“It was about influential leadership, really, above all else. How do you motivate somebody when you don’t have the power to command them to do something? They keep reiterating how leadership and command were NOT the same thing. They wanted to teach us how to lead, not how to command.”

“The Danish Home Guard, due to its lack of formal military structure, its fluctuating ranks (going from enlisted to officer and back, depending on your current role), and the unpaid/volunteer nature of it, focuses largely on personal over positional power,”

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“There was also a good deal of talk about wolves and giraffes, and the importance of understanding a Danish term known as wolvsprog, which means to speak like a wolf. This type of communication was described as ineffective and harmful, as it is demanding, mercurial, unforgiving, and shortsighted.

“Contrasted from wolves are giraffes, whose means of discourse are aptly called girafsprog. The giraffe epitomizes calmness, equanimity, and balance. These two animals were contrasted during their lesson on conflict management, where we were taught to think like a giraffe.

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I know I keep yammering on about the Danes but I do think they are onto something.

One common complaint I hear on this site about the Militia/Reserves is that the don't follow orders. They don't show up when commanded. They only work when they want to and where they want to.

That sounds an awful lot like the culture the Danes have to accommodate with their Home Guard.

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Running the numbers again.

5,977,000 Danes
51,000 volunteers on the rolls
13,000 active (completed 250 hours of training and showing up at least 24 hours a year - typical commitment is more like 200 hours per year)
3,000 reaction force volunteers (infantry trained on their own time - considered competent in platoon tactics - take their rifles home with them)

The active force is considered well enough trained to supplement police and regulars on security duties - cordons, perimeters and check-points.
The reaction force is considered well enough trained to manage tactical operations up to company level independently when operating in their own backyards, literally.

Canadian numbers

350,000 volunteers signed up
90,000 active available
21,000 locals in QRF platoons

In addition the Danes hire up to 9000 full time soldiers (all ranks)
That would equate to 63,000 Canadians in the regular army. There would be an additional 21,000 in the air force, 21,000 in the navy and 14,000 in logistics and admin.

Ports and airports are all secured with the assistance of the Homeguard.

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Many of the Homeguard also sign up for more advanced units like the Patrol units, the Vehicle Patrol units and the SSR or long range Special Reconnaissance unit which trains alongside the Special Forces. They also sign up for foreign service, often bringing their civvy skills to CIMiC operations. If nothing else the regs don't have to baby-sit them as much.
 
Yes there is, but do they have the skill set you need? Those that do are going to demand much more in wage or alternatively I question the quality you’re going to receive for that price.
310T's / Diesel mechanics in that area are generally posted 35-50.

So yes is it's in the lower end on raw wage, but in the band. Then there's the work life balance difference, physical nature of the work difference, perq & bennies difference.

I know 2 in a smaller town that made the shift at a ~50-100% pay cut from working in a shop (one owning a shop) to teaching auto at highschool because of the life impacts.
 
I was a public servant EG7, paid hourly, and knew what my annual wage was because I had a contract to work 37.5 hours per week.
I definitely got paid for holidays. If you are trying to say otherwise you are a tedious pedant.
Easy there tiger. I can't reference information I don't have, I didn't make assumptions that it was a full time contract nor that it was a salary based on an hourly wage. Assumptions lead to misunderstanding.

I'm always trying to be extremely clear here. I'm very careful with my wording on the interwebs because people take inferences that are not there and run with them out of context. Yes the most likely situation is that they are contracted like you point out with all the benifits. But that's not the information I had.

So pedant for sure, tedious... well that's just hurtful ;)
 
Thats not good pay for most technicians jobs, let alone instructors. Need a time machine for that to be good wages.

Part time teachers at a college make way more.
If you looked at my post earlier, they do not. That wage is directly in line with college technical instruction compensation. Especially as colleges are cutting back staff like crazy right now.
 
If you looked at my post earlier, they do not. That wage is directly in line with college technical instruction compensation. Especially as colleges are cutting back staff like crazy right now.
And having dealt a bit with college technical instruction staff (between family working as such and going through the programs they assist in) generally that is not attracting the best of the best plus it isn’t up to par for many trades.

The people who take those jobs are usually lazy employees who aren’t particularly competent, retired people looking to talk to someone about some irrelevant topic, or rarely someone who is genuinely interested in teaching.

Keep in mind most technicians at colleges aren’t instructing (or if they are they are being paid part time professor rates), they are fixing equipment, prepping stuff for the classrooms/workspace, etc.

The places the colleges are cutting back aren’t generally the trades, it is the made up programs they created for international students which don’t hold up when viewed critically.

Mind you that wage it is going to depend on the trade as well, some trades their wage will be higher, others much lower. Cook is a great example of a red seal trade with the wage at the bottom end well a electrician is paid over double what they make per hour.
 
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