Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[ytz]

We are good at reading between the lines. It seems to be difficult to read what is on the lines.

It's because anything definitive is really hard at this stage. DIA is still ramping and they are working on operationalizing that strategy. And it's hard to know on specific things how the strategy shakes out. Do we just declare GM Oshawa a strategic partner and ensure all future trucks are based on the Silverado? There's questions on how to operationalize the letter and intent of the strategy. And DIA is working on that. We're supposed to start seeing some strategic partners declared this summer.

None of the CAF bases - outside of Cold Lake - have the expanse to conduct most of the missions that are faced now with the equipment that is needed/coming on line.

This has been recognized as a huge issue for years. Even the CLAWR isn't enough to train a lot of network enabled weapons. We need something like Australia's Woomera. And even they have issues. How do you live fire a JASSM?

 

[Kirkhill]

It's because anything definitive is really hard at this stage. DIA is still ramping and they are working on operationalizing that strategy. And it's hard to know on specific things how the strategy shakes out. Do we just declare GM Oshawa a strategic partner and ensure all future trucks are based on the Silverado? There's questions on how to operationalize the letter and intent of the strategy. And DIA is working on that. We're supposed to start seeing some strategic partners declared this summer.



This has been recognized as a huge issue for years. Even the CLAWR isn't enough to train a lot of network enabled weapons. We need something like Australia's Woomera. And even they have issues. How do you live fire a JASSM?

It is not just at this point in time unfortunately. It seems to be endemic.

I think the last time that anybody said anything definitive it was about buying 12 nuclear subs. Which were countermanded.

And nobody has done anything that silly ever again.

 

[ytz]

It is not just at this point in time unfortunately. It seems to be endemic.

I think the last time that anybody said anything definitive it was about buying 12 nuclear subs. Which were countermanded.

And nobody has done anything that silly ever again.

Among many reasons why I say we need a new defence strategy. The Industrial Strategy should be a piece of a larger plan.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

I think now would be a good time to look at how we even come up with defense plans and strategies: It may be time to dust off the excellent book by major John Hasek: The Disarming of Canada (Key Porter Books, 1987) and start thinking about creating a proper "general staff" on the European model. One capable of timely analysis of needs and creation of approaches to deliver on proper defense. through proper military advice to the civilian masters, but one capable of making and supporting the arguments from the military point of view on the needs now and in the future, for the defense of Canada. Many lessons from that book still ring true today.

 

[dapaterson]

Back in '97 we were told to adopt a degreed officer corps, instead of an educated and moral officer corps.

We now reap what we sowed.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I think now would be a good time to look at how we even come up with defense plans and strategies: It may be time to dust off the excellent book by major John Hasek: The Disarming of Canada (Key Porter Books, 1987) and start thinking about creating a proper "general staff" on the European model. One capable of timely analysis of needs and creation of approaches to deliver on proper defense. through proper military advice to the civilian masters, but one capable of making and supporting the arguments from the military point of view on the needs now and in the future, for the defense of Canada. Many lessons from that book still ring true today.

A 'proper' General Staff...

If we had one you're assuming that anyone in a decision making role, especially politicians, would listen to them.

That's very 'glass half full' of you

 

[OldSolduer]

I think now would be a good time to look at how we even come up with defense plans and strategies: It may be time to dust off the excellent book by major John Hasek: The Disarming of Canada (Key Porter Books, 1987) and start thinking about creating a proper "general staff" on the European model. One capable of timely analysis of needs and creation of approaches to deliver on proper defense. through proper military advice to the civilian masters, but one capable of making and supporting the arguments from the military point of view on the needs now and in the future, for the defense of Canada. Many lessons from that book still ring true today.

Apparently the German General Staff were regarded as the best at one time.

 

[Brad Sallows]

More than a General Staff is needed. Proper high-level planning - industrialization, mobilization - is a civil-military venture.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I ve mentioned this before but at one time the Brits used to keep what they called the War Books. Basically a bunch of binders that covered the whole process of going to war. It was described an quite literally a How to book .
It covered all the legal steps, the economic ones ,medical, industrial and so forth.
If you ever get the chance watch the Falkland's Play. It actually covers some of the diplomatic and bureaucratic moves that a government has to take to actually go to war.