Canada should join the (nuclear) big leagues

[GK .Dundas]

Nuclear depth charges? For when you wanna do extreme fishing?

"Extreme Fishing".....yeah that's possibly the definition of ASW I've ever heard.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I’m definitely not surprised that we are looking at an increase in nuclear proliferation. Between Russia invading Ukraine a couple decades after the Ukrainians gave up their Soviet arsenal for “security guarantees” and Uncle Sam becoming a much less dependable ally, other countries would be dumb not to think about it. Off the top of my head, I can see South Korea, Japan and Taiwan being the most serious in acquiring nukes. Poland seems to be the best European candidate for nuclear proliferation.

You can bet KSA is quietly examining nukes as well.

 

[GR66]

You can bet KSA is quietly examining nukes as well.

Hmmm...apparently the F-35 will be certified to carry the B61-12 nuclear gravity bomb internally. No wonder Israel isn't keen on Trump selling F-35's to Saudi Arabia.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Hmmm...apparently the F-35 will be certified to carry the B61-12 nuclear gravity bomb internally. No wonder Israel isn't keen on Trump selling F-35's to Saudi Arabia.

There are a lot of ways nukes can be delivered to targets. The worry is possession, not means of delivery.

 

[GR66]

There are a lot of ways nukes can be delivered to targets. The worry is possession, not means of delivery.

Not every means of delivery is stealthy which could impact the potential to retaliate - i.e. potentially reduced deterrence effect of Israeli nukes

 

[Cloud Cover]

I’m sorry but please can we have at least two different nuclear bombs? One made in Ontario [code named Fat Man] and one made in a Brookfield apartment [Little Boy]. Or a cleverly designed Cowichan bomb that lays waste to the land but leaves bank accounts intact. Something for everyone…

 

[KevinB]

You can bet KSA is quietly examining nukes as well.

And you can bet that program would get the Gerald Bull treatment much sooner than later…

 

[Edward Campbell]

This is from the current edition of 'Foreign Affairs:'

"For decades, the United States invested in a nuclear order built around nonproliferation, even as Cold War disarmament agreements such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty expired. Opposing proliferation among unreliable states and adversaries makes sense, but a blanket opposition to the further spread of nuclear weapons obscures the significant benefits they can bestow. The United States would do well to reconsider its strict adherence to nonproliferation and encourage a small set of allies—namely Canada, Germany, and Japan—to go nuclear. For Washington, selective nuclear proliferation would allow these partners to take on larger roles in regional defense and decrease their military dependence on the United States. For these allies, in turn, acquiring nuclear weapons provides the most dependable protection against the threats of regional foes, such as China and Russia, as well as a United States less committed to its traditional alliances."

Yes. indeed! But the Raging Grannies (and 90% of Canadian voters) will be opposed.

Mod edit to add link to article,

America’s Allies Should Go Nuclear

Selective proliferation will strengthen the global order, not end it.

www.foreignaffairs.com

... and archived link, and clarify thread title.

Thanks, Mods, for doing what I should have done when I began the post.

 

[RangerRay]

And you can bet that program would get the Gerald Bull treatment much sooner than later…

Do you think your president would do that to his buddy, MBS?

 

[childs56]

Can't do that, this is Canada, and we like to pretend that anything we aren't doing now is too much.

At the same time, we demand that everything we do is done to the same level as the Americans, because we are nothing if we aren't just like the sole superpower in the world.

I wouldn't mess with those Officers, they are well trained from what I hear.

 

[Czech_pivo]

And you can bet that program would get the Gerald Bull treatment much sooner than later…

Ah Gerald,
Found out that Icarus was true.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Do you think your president would do that to his buddy, MBS?

No, someone geographically much closer and more competent.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

And you can bet that program would get the Gerald Bull treatment much sooner than later…

It's entirely possible that KSA would purchase Pakistani made tactical weapons and delivery systems, likley manned by Pakistani specialists and guarded by KSA loyalist troops. KSA could offer significant monies to Pakistan and prop up the government there in exchange. They could also provide funds to modernize Pakistani nuclear weapons, primarily the delivery system.

Pakistan could likley transfer 10 to 20 weapons without significantly reducing its nuclear triad, and the transfer could happen very quickly. The main adversary would be Iran, but likley they would make pointed looks at the Houthi's as well.

Israel and the US would be unhappy, but would seek to get assurances of doctrine, security and limit the quantity and type from KSA and limit KSA involvement in modernizing the Pakistani nuclear force.