Canada's tanks

[FJAG]

Production of AMPV was reduced at request of US DoD. Im sure the manufacturer would love to have a FMS take up the slack....but I thought the Canadian Army was done with tracked vehicles?

Hey. They've recently rediscovered mobilization and artillery as concepts - tracks to help the Leo2 can't be far behind.

 

[KevinB]

Production of AMPV was reduced at request of US DoD. Im sure the manufacturer would love to have a FMS take up the slack....but I thought the Canadian Army was done with tracked vehicles?

I mean the AMPV is required to replace the donated or scrapped M113’s, it’s not like it was adopted in a vacuum.

The brain power in our current administration is less than inspiring.

 

[MilEME09]

Production of AMPV was reduced at request of US DoD. Im sure the manufacturer would love to have a FMS take up the slack....but I thought the Canadian Army was done with tracked vehicles?

MCAV project is going to be tracked

 

[PrairieFella]

Yes I keep forgetting them - probably intentionally . The KM merger with the French left me less excited for them.

The French make some really cool stuff. Since the med cav vehicles seem to be destined for wheeled brigades I think it would make sense for something like Jaguar. That thing is cool as fuck.

Personally Id like to see Jaguar for LAV bdes and CV9035 as IFVs and as bde/div recce in the tank bde.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

A lot of French light armour was designed with Africa in mind. Long distances with minimal logistical support.

 

[Kirkhill]

The French make some really cool stuff. Since the med cav vehicles seem to be destined for wheeled brigades I think it would make sense for something like Jaguar. That thing is cool as fuck.

Personally Id like to see Jaguar for LAV bdes and CV9035 as IFVs and as bde/div recce in the tank bde.

Which wars do you want to fight?

How about crossing a Jaguar with a TRACKX?

 

[Cloud Cover]

MCAV project is going to be tracked

What is this MCAV you speak of?

 

[Ludoc]

Medium Cavalry.

 

[Underway]

What is this MCAV you speak of?

Its in the army's plan. There will be a new (8 Hussars probably) Heavy Cav Regt to join the Strats and the RCD and 12 RBC will be getting medium cavalry tracked vehicles (CV90, Bradley, Lynx, Redback or whatever). And when it happens it going to be pretty quick.

 

[Cloud Cover]

It’s in the army's plan. There will be a new (8 Hussars probably) Heavy Cav Regt to join the Strats and the RCD and 12 RBC will be getting medium cavalry tracked vehicles (CV90, Bradley, Lynx, Redback or whatever). And when it happens it going to be pretty quick.

In addition to the 9 infantry battalions or a re-role of existing, or nobody knows lol…

 

[markppcli]

In addition to the 9 infantry battalions or a re-role of existing, or nobody knows lol…

The proposed army structure is out. 9 Bns stay, new armour and artillery units.

 

[FJAG]

The proposed army structure is out. 9 Bns stay, new armour and artillery units.

How about Log and sigs?

 

[markppcli]

How about Log and sigs?

I'll have to look, i assume each Bde HQ and Div HQ will have sigs, Svc Bns for the add Bde.

 

[FJAG]

I'll have to look, i assume each Bde HQ and Div HQ will have sigs, Svc Bns for the add Bde.

I expect that too. I was really wondering more about increased sigs and logistics structures to properly enable, at a minimum, the RegF div. I'm currently writing a new edition to "Unsustainable" so have my head in these things.

 

[Ludoc]

How about Log and sigs?

Sigs:
Current Bde HQ and Sigs Sqns to Regts
Divs get Sigs Regts
The Army gets a Sigs Regt
Each new Bde gets a Sigs unit (I think Regt sized but can't remember for sure)
CCSB gets Organic Sigs
The Light Infantry Regt gets organic Sigs in its HQ (Coy sized? I am not sure, only saw it in document)

Logistics:
Manoeuvre Div gets a Service Bn (not sure about DoC Div)
Support Div takes over all Garrison support so each Svc Bn is whole oriented at supporting its respective field force
Support Div provides staging and extra logistical support to DoC Div during Dom Ops

It's good because we need all these organizations. But it remains unclear where the pers to staff them is going to come from. Some of the delta on the Sigs side will be made up of other soldiers. More combat arms pers in the Sigs Regts (most likely organic to the Tps, not a separate D&S Tp). More formalized Sig training to the pers in non-Sig units.

Support Div to be "civilian-ized" as much a possible. Not a lot of context to what that means. I think it means public servants/contractors hired for base support to get pers in green back to the field force.

Probably a lot more in the order but so far I have only skimmed it looking for first order effects to my org.

 

[Kirkhill]

Sigs:
Current Bde HQ and Sigs Sqns to Regts
Divs get Sigs Regts
The Army gets a Sigs Regt
Each new Bde gets a Sigs unit (I think Regt sized but can't remember for sure)
CCSB gets Organic Sigs
The Light Infantry Regt gets organic Sigs in its HQ (Coy sized? I am not sure, only saw it in document)

Logistics:
Manoeuvre Div gets a Service Bn (not sure about DoC Div)
Support Div takes over all Garrison support so each Svc Bn is whole oriented at supporting its respective field force
Support Div provides staging and extra logistical support to DoC Div during Dom Ops

It's good because we need all these organizations. But it remains unclear where the pers to staff them is going to come from. Some of the delta on the Sigs side will be made up of other soldiers. More combat arms pers in the Sigs Regts (most likely organic to the Tps, not a separate D&S Tp). More formalized Sig training to the pers in non-Sig units.

Support Div to be "civilian-ized" as much a possible. Not a lot of context to what that means. I think it means public servants/contractors hired for base support to get pers in green back to the field force.

Probably a lot more in the order but so far I have only skimmed it looking for first order effects to my org.

Civilianized?

Civilians that can be MRES'd in a crisis? Ie signed up in advance but mobilized when necessary?

 

[Ludoc]

Civilianized?

Civilians that can be MRES'd in a crisis? Ie signed up in advance but mobilized when necessary?

No. Just regular public servants, like we have now. People to fix buildings, repair vehicles, re-image computers, etc in garrison. During a crisis the field force deploys and is supported by its organic CS/CSS elements. When the crisis is over the field force returns to base and public servants have kept the lights on, buildings maintained, yearly inspects complete on the vehicles left behind, and whatever else needed to be done in our absence.

 

[daftandbarmy]

FWIW, I have never heard of this but approve






British Army After Action Reports on using the RP-3 rockets against enemy positions:

"The morale effect – especially against ordinary troops – was tremendous. On one occasion a strongly held bridge was captured. Rocket firing tanks were used in support of our infantry. The first 88 mm gun was knocked out by a rocket and the rest failed to fire. The enemy suffered over forty dead, and we had next to no casualties. This, of course, was not caused entirely by the rockets, but they certainly had a lot to do with it. On a second occasion, our infantry were being troubled from enemy infantry in a wood. Two troops of tanks fired two rockets each from about 400 yards. (8 tanks = 16 rockets) the Germans did not fire another shot, and 30-40 infantry including “Brandenburgers” came out of the wood afterwards and gave themselves up. They were extremely shaken. There were several other occasions of this nature."

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