Canadian Dismounted Infantry Capability Enhancement (DICE) programme

[QV]

Kind of nuts to think the Australian soldier has more or less been equipped like this for the better part of a decade if not longer.

Is that a SA80 in the second pic? If so... dang, you win some and you lose some I guess.

 

[PrairieFella]

Is that a SA80 in the second pic? If so... dang, you win some and you lose some I guess.

Nah, one of the coolest looking rifles ever made, the Steyr AUG.

 

[KevinB]

Nah, one of the coolest looking rifles ever made, the Steyr AUG.

Yes the AusSteyr F88 (or now EF for EnhancedF88) and the fact that all the Aussie SOF use either C8's or Hk416's...
Typically useless bullpup

But while the Aussie GPF have a total cluster of a rifle - they have tried to address it's issues a number of times
- but they seem to have done a decent job in equipping their soldiers

 

[PrairieFella]

Yes the AusSteyr F88 (or now EF for EnhancedF88) and the fact that all the Aussie SOF use either C8's or Hk416's...
Typically useless bullpup

But while the Aussie GPF have a total cluster of a rifle - they have tried to address it's issues a number of times
- but they seem to have done a decent job in equipping their soldiers

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Sure it may suck but it's in Call of Duty MW2 and Die Hard so it'll forever be one of my favourite rifles.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Sure it may suck but it's in Call of Duty MW2 and Die Hard so it'll forever be one of my favourite rifles.

I could never pass the No Russian mission.

 

[PrairieFella]

I could never pass the No Russian mission.

You could skip it.

 

[Kirkhill]

Delete

 

[Kirkhill]

Anybody else think that Coyote Brown looks a lot like khaki circa 1937?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Anybody else think that Coyote Brown looks a lot like khaki circa 1937?

Next stop, puttees!

 

[markppcli]

Honestly it doesn't friggin matter what Gen it is. Does it work the way you need it to? Yes or no.

And if I've learned anything on these boards since 2007, when it comes to load carrying, rucksacks and boots NOTHING is ever good enough for the army. Always something to bitch about because it doesn't do X, Y, Z the way I want it to.

Almost as though we have been issued an utterly unacceptable set of load bearing kit since 2007, and have watch the multiple projects to replace with either and die. We don’t even have a workable IFAK pouch on the tac vest, hell it doesn’t hold our issued grenades.

 

[Fabius]

I’m curious to see if the DICE stuff will feature a dedicated IFAK pouch.
I don’t remember the ISSP vests, Gen 1 or 2 having one but I may be misremembering.

 

[KevinB]

Almost as though we have been issued an utterly unacceptable set of load bearing kit since 2007, and have watch the multiple projects to replace with either and die. We don’t even have a workable IFAK pouch on the tac vest, hell it doesn’t hold our issued grenades.

Honestly since 1964, but that’s just me.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Almost as though we have been issued an utterly unacceptable set of load bearing kit since 2007 64 pattern webbing, and have watch the multiple projects to replace with either and die. We don’t even have a workable IFAK pouch on the tac vest, hell it doesn’t hold our issued grenades.

There, FTFY...

64 Patt... rhymes with 'Piece of Crap'

 

[markppcli]

I’m curious to see if the DICE stuff will feature a dedicated IFAK pouch.
I don’t remember the ISSP vests, Gen 1 or 2 having one but I may be misremembering.

The ISSP ones on issue in Latvia do. They’re just ISSP Gen 2.

 

[OldSolduer]

Honestly it doesn't friggin matter what Gen it is. Does it work the way you need it to? Yes or no.

And if I've learned anything on these boards since 2007, when it comes to load carrying, rucksacks and boots NOTHING is ever good enough for the army. Always something to bitch about because it doesn't do X, Y, Z the way I want it to.

The 80% solution is needed here - if you are attempting to perfect it you will fail.

 

[dangerboy]

I’m curious to see if the DICE stuff will feature a dedicated IFAK pouch.
I don’t remember the ISSP vests, Gen 1 or 2 having one but I may be misremembering.

The DICE system does have a dedicated IFAk, and as already mentioned, so does the ISSP. Some of the other pouches the DICE system has are:

• 40 mm grenade pouch
• C13 grenade pouch
• Smoke grenade pouch
• C9 drum pouch
• C22 pistol magazine pouches
• Gas mask pouch
• Radio pouches
• Various types of C7 magazine pouches

This is not an exhaustive list of pouches, but rather what I recall seeing.

 

[KevinB]

The 80% solution is needed here - if you are attempting to perfect it you will fail.

Well about 80% of the pouches fitting the item they are meant to is historically the answer…

 

[daftandbarmy]

Well about 80% of the pouches fitting the item they are meant to is historically the answer…

“You can always tell an old soldier by the inside of his holsters and cartridge boxes. The young ones carry pistols and cartridges; the old ones, grub.”

George Bernard Shaw

 

[Underway]

Almost as though we have been issued an utterly unacceptable set of load bearing kit since 2007, and have watch the multiple projects to replace with either and die. We don’t even have a workable IFAK pouch on the tac vest, hell it doesn’t hold our issued grenades.

You're missing my point. The army, because it equips men (not mans equipment), will never ever get load carriage, tac vsts or boots correct enough so people stop complaining. Its an impossible task.

Because every individual has their own individual preferences. Which means people will never stop complaining about it. It's the same reason the infantry guys always buy their own stuff for everything. Because its "personal" kit.

The best you can hope for is less people complaining.

 

[markppcli]

You're missing my point. The army, because it equips men (not mans equipment), will never ever get load carriage, tac vsts or boots correct enough so people stop complaining. Its an impossible task.

Because every individual has their own individual preferences. Which means people will never stop complaining about it. It's the same reason the infantry guys always buy their own stuff for everything. Because its "personal" kit.

The best you can hope for is less people complaining.

Because you point is lost in the tone of you comment. There also critical shortages with the tac vest that have never been addressed. The frag grenades not fitting and the lack of an IFAK, those are real problems and not “personal preference” or idle complaints to be ignored.