Canadian Federal Election 44 - Sep 2021

[Fishbone Jones]

Far too much time is spent looking at the past when we need to look towards the future.

Sorry. The trudeau liberals aren't getting off that easy.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

So when he says that the 'people have spoken', nah, just 19 with the loudest voices have spoken.

Not even the loudest voices. some of those 19 were given megaphones based on their geography.

FPTP worked when we were a small nation of 4 provinces. We are the second largest country by area in the world. Being "Canadian" unites us all when its the IIHF World juniors, but I guarantee the interests and concerns a person in St. John's has differ tremendously to someone in Calgary, and thus are not "Canadian" interests.

Moreover, it only serves to alienate the rest of the country to have Toronto and Montreal dictate who will run the country before the polls even close on the West Coast. Its lunacy like this that will lead to stronger calls for succession in places like Alberta. Hell even in rural Ontario there are a lot of people pissed off that Toronto called the election for them.

 

[QV]

I’ve found a number of people voted LPC because they identify as being liberal and they actually believe Trudeau and the LPC espouse liberal values. A lot can be assumed just from a name. I don’t like the CPC name, it comes across as the old dusty party of our grandparents, “conservative” doesn’t sound as enlightening as “liberal”. The CPC needs new branding and a name change to appeal to a large group of voters.

 

[YZT580]

The problem with all the policy planks that involve subsidies is that all the people who qualify get the same thing. All the extra money just lifts the bids (prices).

Buy land and find a floor plan from 1970 and build to it.

no one needs 2500 square foot house with 3 bathrooms, a Jacuzzi, sauna and exercise room and almost everyone can learn to hang drywall and do other basic rennos.

 

[Altair]

He released shortly thereafter and was appointed MND

I'll admit I don't know the procedure here, was the only reason he released because he was going to be MND or because he was a MP?

 

[YZT580]

Too bad Eaton's wasn't still around:

no, but colonial homes and other pre-fab outfits still exist

 

[Altair]

Sorry.

I don't buy it.

The trudeau liberals aren't getting off that easy.

When my house is on fire I care less about what started it and more about putting it out.

 

[YZT580]

I’ve found a number of people voted LPC because they identify as being liberal and they actually believe Trudeau and the LPC espouse liberal values. A lot can be assumed just from a name. I don’t like the CPC name, it comes across as the old dusty party of our grandparents, “conservative” doesn’t sound as enlightening as “liberal”. The CPC needs new branding and a name change to appeal to a large group of voters.

how about reform?

 

[Blackadder1916]

I'll admit I don't know the procedure here, was the only reason he released because he was going to be MND or because he was a MP?

From 2015

Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan released from military — so he doesn't have to take orders from generals

Theoretically, as a member of the military he would have been required to take orders from generals who are supposed to be answering to him

nationalpost.com

 

[Altair]

History, aka the past does offer a predictor of how people, organizations and countries behave though. The past causes the present and therefore impacts and influences the future. Looking at the past gives an understanding of why thing occurred and how they occurred. History may not repeat but it definitely rhymes.
Deeds not words. Deeds matter more than words, and the past can offer an evaluation of both and how they relate.

If everyone thinks this way, aren't things like reconciliation doomed from the start?

Wouldn't support for Quebec separation still be at all time highs?

Place too much emphasis on the past and previous mistakes and one never moves forward to fixing the issue.

That's what I tell my wife at least.

 

[Altair]

From 2015

Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan released from military — so he doesn't have to take orders from generals

Theoretically, as a member of the military he would have been required to take orders from generals who are supposed to be answering to him

nationalpost.com

So what I gather is that he could have stayed on as a reservist if he wasn't going to be MND.

So I guess this Vuong fella can stay in the reserves so long as the military doesn't kick him to the curb then.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Aye, aye!

And in a more embarrassing image (for the organization)

View attachment 66592

 

[dapaterson]

There is no statute or regulation that would force his release. See QR&O chapter 19, article 19.44.

The custom has been in recent years to not have Reg F or P Res members serve in the House (I am uncertain whether any members were in the Supp Res when serving as MPs).

 

[ArmyRick]

AS far as the Liberal riding association crying and whining about Vuong and demanding he step down or have a by-election, too F-ing bad.

That's how this works and when it doesn't work in your favour, you can not cry like ill tempered toddlers.

 

[QV]

how about reform?

Nope. That wouldn't do. Too much negativity tied to that name.

 

[mariomike]

Its lunacy like this that will lead to stronger calls for succession in places like Alberta.

Nothing new about that.

Western Alienation - Split from General Election 2019

“ Instead, it continued into British Columbia's Interior and northeast, parts of the province where support for Conservative candidates ranged from 45.1 per cent in Kootenay-Columbia in the south to a full 69.9 per cent in Prince George-Peace River-Northern Rockies in the north.” This is real...

www.milnet.ca

The libertarian case for (Western) independence

Can this “radical decentralization” work? To me, it seems very far-fetched. The libertarian case for independence Independence is a legitimate option for the West, but only if it does so to end overreaching government, not replicate it. Published 6 days ago on September 8, 2020 Darcy Gerow...

www.milnet.ca

Or, the urban vs rural divide in Canadian politics,

338Canada: The urban-rural divide, right along party lines - Macleans.ca

Philippe J. Fournier: In the least populated ridings, Conservatives dominate voting intentions by 16 points. In the most populated, Liberals are up by 26 points.

www.macleans.ca

In the least populated ridings, Conservatives dominate voting intentions by 16 points. In the most populated, Liberals are up by 26 points.

 

[Good2Golf]

Nope. That wouldn't do. Too much negativity tied to that name.

Needs something that captures both progress and responsibility.

 

[Blackadder1916]

There is no statute or regulation that would force his release. See QR&O chapter 19, article 19.44.

The custom has been in recent years to not have Reg F or P Res members serve in the House (I am uncertain whether any members were in the Supp Res when serving as MPs).

Maybe one not following the custom.

Home - Dane Lloyd | Sturgeon River-Parkland

danelloyd.com

. . . As an Infantry Officer in the Canadian Forces Primary Reserves, Dane is currently the only serving member of the Canadian Forces in Parliament.

His Wikipedia page says he is with the GGFG.

 

[Jarnhamar]

So I guess this Vuong fella can stay in the reserves so long as the military doesn't kick him to the curb then.

Does the CAF need more officers that hide sexual misconduct allegations and charges?

 

[RangerRay]

I’ve found a number of people voted LPC because they identify as being liberal and they actually believe Trudeau and the LPC espouse liberal values. A lot can be assumed just from a name. I don’t like the CPC name, it comes across as the old dusty party of our grandparents, “conservative” doesn’t sound as enlightening as “liberal”. The CPC needs new branding and a name change to appeal to a large group of voters.

I self identify as “liberal” but I have never voted “Liberal” (except for in BC). The opposite of “liberalism” is not “conservatism”, but “illiberalism”.

I believe that I am in the minority of self-identified “liberals” in this country.