Canadian modular assault rifle project, a C7 replacement?

[Fabius]

There is an article in the current issue of Canadian Army Today on the rifle program.

It’s actually very frustrating from an end user perspective how there seems to be zero information or focus on the optic when that is at least 50% of the system. Especially when the rifle is just an updated AR. In the article the rifle is wearing an SAI LPVO 1-6.

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Canadian Army Today - Fall 2025 - Volume 9, Issue 2

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[PrairieFella]

There is an article in the current issue of Canadian Army Today on the rifle program.

It’s actually very frustrating from an end user perspective how there seems to be zero information or focus on the optic when that is at least 50% of the system. Especially when the rifle is just an updated AR. In the article the rifle is wearing an SAI LPVO 1-6.

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Sai makes a real good quality sight n'est pas?

 

[Jarnhamar]

In the article the rifle is wearing an SAI LPVO 1-6.

I like the SVD style range finder.

 

[markppcli]

There is an article in the current issue of Canadian Army Today on the rifle program.

It’s actually very frustrating from an end user perspective how there seems to be zero information or focus on the optic when that is at least 50% of the system. Especially when the rifle is just an updated AR. In the article the rifle is wearing an SAI LPVO 1-6.

ABOUT SAI OPTICS

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Canadian Army Today - Fall 2025 - Volume 9, Issue 2

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My sincere hope is this is a sign we're looking at optics as an upgradeable program vs a once off purchase.

 

[Fabius]

Found this interesting today.

41 CBG fired 148,600 5.56 during 2025 across 1815 personnel.
A total of 81 rounds per soldier in the Brigade.

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[markppcli]

Found this interesting today.

41 CBG fired 148,600 5.56 during 2025 across 1815 personnel.
A total of 81 rounds per soldier in the Brigade.



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Im honestly not sure how to read that given how those numbers must skew.

 

[Maxman1]

A PWT3 requires 69 rounds per shooter, 20 for zeroing and 49 for the scored portion.

 

[dapaterson]

How many of those 1815 are only on paper? Does that number include the Reg F personnel posted in to 41 CBG? Does the salary amount include that Reg F pay?

And how does a CBG, across all units, have only 17 field.training exercises?

 

[Eaglelord17]

Not surprised at the round count. Personally I often shoot more at a civvy range trip than I would in a year in the military.

 

[markppcli]

How many of those 1815 are only on paper? Does that number include the Reg F personnel posted in to 41 CBG? Does the salary amount include that Reg F pay?

And how does a CBG, across all units, have only 17 field.training exercises?

Bad look when they have 10 units. I'd imagine, and hope, that they were largely exercising together.

Not surprised at the round count. Personally I often shoot more at a civvy range trip than I would in a year in the military.

I'd be shocked if they round count didn't skew really heavily towards 3-400 regular attendees if not even less.

 

[Fabius]

For me the total number of 148,600 and the average of 81 rnds per person ( I agree that this is not real, many fired 0 some fired hundreds) is a useful baseline of average availability of resources to achieve marksmanship across the formation.

In relation to the CMAR upgrades or PWT changes, it’s these above numbers I think that are more useful to understand army marksmanship trends than either the mechanical accuracy of the new CMAR/C8A4 system or changes to the PWT by the Infantry School small arms cell.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Not surprised at the round count. Personally I often shoot more at a civvy range trip than I would in a year in the military.

When I was doing IPSC, I would burn through about 700-1,000 rds of centrefire pistol and the same for .22cal using subcalbre devices every month. I generally go through about 50-100 centrefire rifle and 100-200 .22cal every range trip now, not counting pistol.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

When I was doing IPSC, I would burn through about 700-1,000 rds of centrefire pistol and the same for .22cal using subcalbre devices every month. I generally go through about 50-100 centrefire rifle and 100-200 .22cal every range trip now, not counting pistol.

This reminds me that I need to start reloading….

 

[Colin Parkinson]

This reminds me that I need to start reloading….

The best part of reloading is when your wife asks you how much ammo costs, you can say: "Excellent question, when reloading it all depends on the price of commodities like copper, brass, etc. Reloading save me between 50-70% over retail and that varies by calibre" and then natter on about bullet weight, grains of powder, etc. After a bit she will roll her eyes and walk away. You have not released any damaging information and did not lie to her either....

 

[markppcli]

For me the total number of 148,600 and the average of 81 rnds per person ( I agree that this is not real, many fired 0 some fired hundreds) is a useful baseline of average availability of resources to achieve marksmanship across the formation.

In relation to the CMAR upgrades or PWT changes, it’s these above numbers I think that are more useful to understand army marksmanship trends than either the mechanical accuracy of the new CMAR/C8A4 system or changes to the PWT by the Infantry School small arms cell.

Ah yes the PWT changes that expected us to rebuild ever CAF range to have a moving target stand. That was well thought out lol.

 

[Infanteer]

5.56mm is hard to expend unless you are wasting it. It is a nature of ammo that is always around in large numbers at end fiscal year.

PWT 3 is not a good benchmark as not all members of that CBG are Reservists.