Canadian Soldiers dead
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A sad day for the men and women of our Armed Forces. My heart goes out to the families and the soldiers of the PPCLI battle group. RIP.
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From CNN
‘Friendly fire‘ incident kills 4 Canadian soldiers
April 18, 2002 Posted: 1:09 AM EDT (0509 GMT)
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight wounded near Kandahar on Thursday when a U.S. F-16 dropped at least one 500-pound laser-guided bomb on them during a training mission, according to U.S. and Canadian military officials.
The "friendly fire" incident happened at about 1:55 a.m. in Afghanistan, the officials said.
Two of the injured Canadian soldiers sustained life-threatening injuries, one was listed with very serious injuries and five with serious injuries, according to a statement from the Canadian Defense Ministry.
Planning for the evacuation of the dead and wounded is under way, the statement said.
"I‘d like to convey to the families and friends of the injured and dead soldiers our condolences and prayers," said Maj. Bryan Hilferty, U.S. Army spokesman at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.
The U.S. and Canadian soldiers were conducting a live-fire training exercise in an area about nine miles (14 kilometers) south of the Kandahar airfield, the Canadian statement said.
The Canadian soldiers, part of the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia‘s Canadian Light Infantry Battle Group, have been in Afghanistan since late January as part of Operation Apollo, Canada‘s military commitment to the campaign against terrorism, according to the Canadian Defense Ministry.
‘Friendly fire‘ incident kills 4 Canadian soldiers
April 18, 2002 Posted: 1:09 AM EDT (0509 GMT)
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight wounded near Kandahar on Thursday when a U.S. F-16 dropped at least one 500-pound laser-guided bomb on them during a training mission, according to U.S. and Canadian military officials.
The "friendly fire" incident happened at about 1:55 a.m. in Afghanistan, the officials said.
Two of the injured Canadian soldiers sustained life-threatening injuries, one was listed with very serious injuries and five with serious injuries, according to a statement from the Canadian Defense Ministry.
Planning for the evacuation of the dead and wounded is under way, the statement said.
"I‘d like to convey to the families and friends of the injured and dead soldiers our condolences and prayers," said Maj. Bryan Hilferty, U.S. Army spokesman at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.
The U.S. and Canadian soldiers were conducting a live-fire training exercise in an area about nine miles (14 kilometers) south of the Kandahar airfield, the Canadian statement said.
The Canadian soldiers, part of the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia‘s Canadian Light Infantry Battle Group, have been in Afghanistan since late January as part of Operation Apollo, Canada‘s military commitment to the campaign against terrorism, according to the Canadian Defense Ministry.
Michael Dorosh
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As bad as I feel for the families of those Patricias, you gotta feel pretty bad for the poor pilot who was involved, too.
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I see CBC has called it an F-18.
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Harry
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Never fear brother, the pen is mightier than the sword, just woke an acquaintance in TO with the CBC and chewed a strip off.
Peter Mansbridge was too busy making assumptions during the CDS presentation and inadvertently started referring to the bird as an 18. The good ole Communist Broadcasting Corp, followed his lead, as he is the EXPERT, and went with his dissertation.
Being changed, but knowing them, in the AM.
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CBC was originally saying an F-18, but has changed it to F-16. Doesn‘t really matter.
4 soldier dead, 2 more critically injured, and number more with less serious injuries.
My heartfelt condolences to their families and their comrades. My heart also goes out to the pilot.
May they Rest In Peace.
4 soldier dead, 2 more critically injured, and number more with less serious injuries.
My heartfelt condolences to their families and their comrades. My heart also goes out to the pilot.
May they Rest In Peace.
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cagomez
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Sad day in deed, for all those involved.......
not to sling arrows as such,but the impression over the
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ears is that when it comes to friendly fire deaths the americans have a dismal record
you have to wonder with all the steps taken to avert such a situation, that the pilots must have been flying awfully low to be worried about small arms fire.
And you have to wonder knowing our governments record of concern for our troopswether they will stand up or just accept whatever explanation is given to them by nthe usa
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ears is that when it comes to friendly fire deaths the americans have a dismal record
you have to wonder with all the steps taken to avert such a situation, that the pilots must have been flying awfully low to be worried about small arms fire.
And you have to wonder knowing our governments record of concern for our troopswether they will stand up or just accept whatever explanation is given to them by nthe usa
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The media has released the soldier‘s names. They are Sgt Mark Leger, Cpl Ainsworth Dyer, Pte Richard Green and Pte Nathan Smith. Injured were Sgt Lorne Ford, Cpl Rene Paquette, MCpl Curtis Hollister, Cpl Brett Parry, Pte Norman Link, Cpl Shane Brennan, MCpl Stanley Clark and Cpl Brian Decare.
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yes, exactly corporal!!
here we are, sending the few troops we have overseas to fight a battle that is not even our own. it‘s an american war, what do we owe them??
if i was Chretien, i‘d be saying to Bush and his troops, "look, you guys are a bunch of yahoos, we‘re pulling our guys out of there, it‘s your battle!"
and yeah, corporal, canada will just mimick the findings of the u.s. investigation. can you really see us saying, "you guys screwed up, and we‘re outta here."...you‘re on your own" unlikely. and if we did, the U.S. would probably hit us with some more exponentially high tariff rates, or some childish b.s. like that. what a joke man.
canada could never conduct a completely objective investigation because the command of the soldiers overseas is so intertwined between canada and the u.s
we shouldn‘t be there in the first place
here we are, sending the few troops we have overseas to fight a battle that is not even our own. it‘s an american war, what do we owe them??
if i was Chretien, i‘d be saying to Bush and his troops, "look, you guys are a bunch of yahoos, we‘re pulling our guys out of there, it‘s your battle!"
and yeah, corporal, canada will just mimick the findings of the u.s. investigation. can you really see us saying, "you guys screwed up, and we‘re outta here."...you‘re on your own" unlikely. and if we did, the U.S. would probably hit us with some more exponentially high tariff rates, or some childish b.s. like that. what a joke man.
canada could never conduct a completely objective investigation because the command of the soldiers overseas is so intertwined between canada and the u.s
we shouldn‘t be there in the first place
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My heart goes out to the the friends and families of the killed and wounded soldiers and to the soldiers of 3 PPCLI.
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My thoughts and prayers go out all of the "pats" both here on the war diary and those here in Canada and in Afgahnistan.
".... at the going down of the sun and in the morning, we shal remember then."
Chimo!
".... at the going down of the sun and in the morning, we shal remember then."
Chimo!
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Chet, where should I begin?
First - I fear that your suggestion that this a battle "that is not even our own. It‘s an american war, what do we owe them??" is incorrect. We offered our assistance to our ally in rooting out the source of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on their soil which, I might add, did kill a number of Canadians as well (or have you forgotten that fact already). We should be there with our Allies and thank God and the men and women of our Armed Forces, we are there, making a useful contribution.
Second - Unfortunately, due to the years of mismangagement and neglect by our governments in equipping our forces, we cannot tell "Bush and his troops - we‘re pulling our guys out of there, it‘s your battle". We rely on the US to get us and our equipment there and back. Unfortunate but true.
Third - It is your opinion that "we shouldn‘t be there in the first place" and you are entitled to it. I just happen to think you are wrong. We should be there and I, as a civilian, am proud of the fact that we are there and we are participating in this fight.
Fourth - It may seem like the US has a number of friendly fire incidents and we should look at the reason this happened so we can make sure it doesn‘t happen again. However, a knee-jerk reaction like what your are suggesting is not the answer (remember the Airborne disbandment!). The men and women of 3 PPCLI Battle Group are there for a reason, they are doing a great job and we should let them finish it. Period.
Now, I am usually content to lurk around this board and make an occasional post. However, your post struck me as untimely and ill-informed. If this response seems critical then I am sorry... No, wait a minute. I am being too Canadian right now. Here, lets try this...
Chet, seeing how you are from Vancouver, why don‘t you go back to your coffee house, order a latte, have a seat with your university chums and discuss philosophy and leave us under-educated Canadians alone.
For everyone else, lets keep our eye on the ball. 4 Canadians died yesterday serving their country and 8 were injured. There will be plenty of time in the future to point fingers and wax poetic about who did what and when. Now we should focus on making sure that they are remembered with the respect and dignity they deserve.
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First - I fear that your suggestion that this a battle "that is not even our own. It‘s an american war, what do we owe them??" is incorrect. We offered our assistance to our ally in rooting out the source of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on their soil which, I might add, did kill a number of Canadians as well (or have you forgotten that fact already). We should be there with our Allies and thank God and the men and women of our Armed Forces, we are there, making a useful contribution.
Second - Unfortunately, due to the years of mismangagement and neglect by our governments in equipping our forces, we cannot tell "Bush and his troops - we‘re pulling our guys out of there, it‘s your battle". We rely on the US to get us and our equipment there and back. Unfortunate but true.
Third - It is your opinion that "we shouldn‘t be there in the first place" and you are entitled to it. I just happen to think you are wrong. We should be there and I, as a civilian, am proud of the fact that we are there and we are participating in this fight.
Fourth - It may seem like the US has a number of friendly fire incidents and we should look at the reason this happened so we can make sure it doesn‘t happen again. However, a knee-jerk reaction like what your are suggesting is not the answer (remember the Airborne disbandment!). The men and women of 3 PPCLI Battle Group are there for a reason, they are doing a great job and we should let them finish it. Period.
Now, I am usually content to lurk around this board and make an occasional post. However, your post struck me as untimely and ill-informed. If this response seems critical then I am sorry... No, wait a minute. I am being too Canadian right now. Here, lets try this...
Chet, seeing how you are from Vancouver, why don‘t you go back to your coffee house, order a latte, have a seat with your university chums and discuss philosophy and leave us under-educated Canadians alone.
For everyone else, lets keep our eye on the ball. 4 Canadians died yesterday serving their country and 8 were injured. There will be plenty of time in the future to point fingers and wax poetic about who did what and when. Now we should focus on making sure that they are remembered with the respect and dignity they deserve.
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