CANFORGEN 168/18 (aka PATCHFORGEN) [Merged]

[Eye In The Sky]

Yes, we did. 4th special skills - parachuting, EOD, etc;

The Space Specialist...is a "special skill". So, in essence, the CAF has just added to a list that already exists.

 

[ueo]

I'll slightly disagree there, because I don't think trade/specialization badges aren't "morale patches".

Trade badges are a quick way to see if the person you're talking to is the right person. I have said this before, but I'm shocked why the NCDs don't have trade badges when things could get loud, everyone is in flash gear, and you're trying to quickly find a specific trade member to do something in their specialty.

If someone is wearing CADPAT and their slip-on says Logistics (or Canada, most of the time), it'd be nice to see if they're an HRA, FSA, Supply, or something else.

Specialization badges also tell a story. Someone with, for example, the ICP badge on their uniform would probably know their stuff about how to teach pilots.

I'm not saying we should go full US and put every badge on there, but trade badge and some specialization badges aren't a bad thing.

God love us... World and CF rapidly going to hell in a hand basket and the Dress Committee (WHY?)and other alledged adults are worried about trades and related badges. Cmon folks focus on things ( retention, recruiting, new systems) rather than this crap! Space Command- WTF again why?

 

[dimsum]

God love us... World and CF rapidly going to hell in a hand basket and the Dress Committee (WHY?)and other alledged adults are worried about trades and related badges. Cmon folks focus on things ( retention, recruiting, new systems) rather than this crap! Space Command- WTF again why?

Because it's not like only one file can progress at a time. Who says the same people that are working the retention, recruiting, and new systems files are the same ones doing patches? They aren't.

Space is important, if nothing else than protecting GPS and related things. Think about how important GPS is to daily life, let alone military assets. Related to that, Cyber is also important. Neither are "sexy" things that would draw people into airshows or anything, but they are essential to modern militaries.

Imagine how it would go if Ukraine didn't have the ISR feeds (at least partially routed through space assets) to give to their RPAs (also at least partially controlled via space assets) to attack Russian forces.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

God love us... World and CF rapidly going to hell in a hand basket and the Dress Committee (WHY?)and other alledged adults are worried about trades and related badges. Cmon folks focus on things ( retention, recruiting, new systems) rather than this crap! Space Command- WTF again why?

Door gunners are just cbt arms NCMs who do a 3 year stint with TacHel. They get a specialist badge (as they should).

Space Specialists are the same thing but that fill space roles in the USAF and CAF. They must complete specific coursing and postings to earn and wear the badge.

Just like Operational Jump Wings (a specialist badge). EOD. All the diver badges…

Or should we just do away with the whole specialist badge collection?

I have a small bit of perspective perhaps, from taking the Basic Space Operations Course and somewhat understanding the level of technical expertise needed as well as what jobs are being done, and where.

They are a small group of specialists in the CAF, like many of our specialists are. I think it only appropriate to recognize their skills and contributions like the other specialists I’ve mentioned.

It’s not like the fighter replacement was put on hold while this badge was in progress.

For the record, I’m not part of the Space Specialist group and will never benefit from the patch.


Anyone interested in taking the Basic Space Operations Course, it is available via self-registration on the DLN. You will see it listed as Barker College Basic Space Operations - just search “Space” “BSOC” etc.

It was one of the more interesting courses I have taken since retreading to the Air Force.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The Space Specialist...is a "special skill". So, in essence, the CAF has just added to a list that already exists.

I may have missed it, any idea what the criteria for the badge is?

 

[dimsum]

I may have missed it, any idea what the criteria for the badge is?

The SSSB is awarded to Joint space cadre personnel who meet all of the following merit criteria, any part of which must have been met on or after 15 April 2014:

a. Successfully complete the Basic Space Operations Course (BSOC), the Space Operations Course (SOC), Space Operations Course - Executive (SOC-E), a foreign equivalent (USAF Space 100 course, USAF Space 200 course, etc.), space-related academic degree, or the first year of a basic Astronaut Candidate training program; and

b. Be employed in a space position for a minimum of 365 cumulative days after achievement of Operationally Functional Point (OFP) in the respective career field.

INTRODUCTION OF THE SPACE SPECIALIST SKILL BADGE

CANFORGEN 062/20 C AIR FORCE 11/20 031640Z MAY 20 INTRODUCTION OF THE SPACE SPECIALIST SKILL BADGE UNCLASSIFIED REFS: A. DIRECTORATE OF HISTORY AND HERITAGE SPACE INSIGNIA HERALDIC DESIGN, APPROVED 15 APR 2014 B. CFAO 55-10 - THE CREATION AND AWARDING OF CANADIAN FORCES FLYING AND SPECIALIST...

army.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

Neat, thanks!

 

[dangerboy]

The SSSB is awarded to Joint space cadre personnel who meet all of the following merit criteria, any part of which must have been met on or after 15 April 2014:

a. Successfully complete the Basic Space Operations Course (BSOC), the Space Operations Course (SOC), Space Operations Course - Executive (SOC-E), a foreign equivalent (USAF Space 100 course, USAF Space 200 course, etc.), space-related academic degree, or the first year of a basic Astronaut Candidate training program; and

b. Be employed in a space position for a minimum of 365 cumulative days after achievement of Operationally Functional Point (OFP) in the respective career field.

INTRODUCTION OF THE SPACE SPECIALIST SKILL BADGE

CANFORGEN 062/20 C AIR FORCE 11/20 031640Z MAY 20 INTRODUCTION OF THE SPACE SPECIALIST SKILL BADGE UNCLASSIFIED REFS: A. DIRECTORATE OF HISTORY AND HERITAGE SPACE INSIGNIA HERALDIC DESIGN, APPROVED 15 APR 2014 B. CFAO 55-10 - THE CREATION AND AWARDING OF CANADIAN FORCES FLYING AND SPECIALIST...

army.ca

So did former Governor General Julie Payette wear one?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

that was the SCNJ (Space Cadet No Job) badge.

 

[Gunplumber]

Does anyone have the regulations on what criteria you need for the Special Forces or Ranger Tabs for DEU and Cadpat?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Should be here:

Dress instructions | Section 3 Flying and specialist skill badges - Canada.ca

dress

www.canada.ca

 

[daftandbarmy]

Should be here:

Dress instructions | Section 3 Flying and specialist skill badges - Canada.ca

dress

www.canada.ca

It's so sad that the Space badge is so... so... sad

 

[PuckChaser]

Does anyone have the regulations on what criteria you need for the Special Forces or Ranger Tabs for DEU and Cadpat?

First step is actually getting loaded onto those courses. Second step is passing.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

It's so sad that the Space badge is so... so... sad

…or that the dress instructions lumped non-aircrew in with aircrew / didn’t update the orders to match the figures. Pick one and make them match ffs.

 

[Good2Golf]

It's so sad that the Space badge is so... so... sad

What, a maple leaf with bendy solar panels, zipping along the 401, doesn’t do it for you?

The Navy is still ‘winning’ with the NWO ‘moustache’….I mean, once it’s actually approved and put in the instructions…

 

[The Bread Guy]

So did former Governor General Julie Payette wear one?

Would she be eligible for some kind of combatives badge, at least?

 

[Spencer100]

It's so sad that the Space badge is so... so... sad

but with the announcement of Canada investing in new sats. a growth field....

 

[PuckChaser]

Release Clerks are a growth field right now but we don't have a specialist skill badge for them...

 

[dapaterson]

I'm certain we could get CP Gear to make CADPAT squares embroidered with GTFO on them.

 

[OldSolduer]

I'm certain we could get CP Gear to make CADPAT squares embroidered with GTFO on them.

Or WTF???