Caseless Ammunition

[mattoigta]

How the **** does it work? I looked around on a couple websites but it‘s too technical. Can anyone explain it in laymen‘s terms? Anyone used it?

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Ok IIRC the projectile is in a solidly packed casing of powder and primer when the weapon is fired the casing is consumed....Hows that?

 

[mattoigta]

thanks

what about the reason for rectangular shape?

 

[L/MCpl_Argyll_ Kurrgan]

So you can tell the difference in a hasty or nightime situation between the case and caseless ammo?

 

[scm77]

What makes caseless ammo better then normal ammo?

 

[Korus]

There‘s also a type of caseless ammunition that would be electrically fired, so no firing pins nessecary, just something to make a spark.

From what I understand, the amunition is rectangular because you can make a more compact round with the same ammount of propellant. That saves space and weight, as well as allows for smaller magazines. (Take a rectangle and a cylinder of the same width, length, height etc... The clinder will be able to hold less propellant than the rectangle. So, you can shrink the rectangle and still have the same ammount of propellant as the cylinder)

Advantages? No casings to be ejected, which will in turn cause less jams. Higher rate of fire is also possible. No ejection port covers for dust to get into if you don‘t close it. You won‘t leave piles of brass for range control to yell, or for the enemy to find to know you where (are) there. Also with the smaller size and saved weight, it‘s easier to transport more ammo both for the individual troops, and for the logisitcal side.

Downsides? I‘m not sure how far the technology has come along, but it would have to burn the propellant completley, and the bonding would have to be tough (Say the round breaks in half inside of the chamber.) But these issues would have definatley been addressedby the designer...

You also won‘t be able to laugh at the person beside you when they get some of your brass down their shirt on the range anymore..

[Edited Note; I did some research, and due the nature of caseless, it burns much hotter than regular cased ammunition, ensuring that all the propellant is burnt off.]

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

SCM..please show me where someone said it was better

 

[scm77]

I didn‘t mean why, it was better, I meant why would you use it instead of regular ammo?

 

[Enzo]

If you can carry more ammunition that costs less and is comparable to contemporary ammunition, why not? (I‘m not saying that is the case here, just the ideal) If the ballistics work and the product is an improvement, then it‘s up to the money-men.

For the forseeable future, you won‘t see a switch. It‘s akin to upgrading from ball and cap to cartridges. A major upgrade. All parties will have to sign off (i.e. NATO), etc...

 

[Spr.Earl]

The German‘s have been trying to perfect the
" Caseless " problem for year‘s.
The main problem has been left over residue from the expended casing,i.e. carbon and large piece‘s of the casing not igniting fully and the weapon end‘s up jamming and need‘s extensive cleaning because of the left over debris.

 

[Enzo]

I‘m wondering, by the time they figure it out, we may have some other new technologies to compete with caseless.

 

[Troopasaurus]

another advantage/disadvantage would be because there is no extraction process the rate of fire is increased.

 

[Spr.Earl]

But the problem is a clean burning caseing!

If that came about we would be carrying what 500 to 600 rnd‘s instead of the 250 odd now because of no weight.

It would be like the movies!Limitless Ammo
LOL!!!!