CH47 Chinook
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ArmyRick said:
When I was Chaplain to RCD in early nineties they used to say "Why walk where you can drive?" and "Any fool can be uncomfortable in the field." Sort of along the same lines I guess.
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Chou said:Its actually the CH147 "F" model not the A, that we are planning to acquire. It is far more capable, way more bells and whistles and almost double the range with the extra fuel tanks
We originally had upgraded "C" models IIRC, we called them CH-147's. So what model we get and what we call it are typically two different things.
Calling our new ones CH-147A's would follow along our traditional naming of aircraft types since these will be our second version of Chinook, thus the "A" or possibly "B" identifier.
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Is there any news on when we are getting them? When the contract will be signed etc? We seem to have lost track of this purchase with all the hoopla over the C17.
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Inch said:
Ahh... I did not know that, I was just referring to the manufactures designation. We recently had a presentation on the Chinooks at the squadron where they clarified a few things regarding model type, specs, due date of "possible" arrival, location.. etc.
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All CF aircraft have a C?### designator: C = Canadian, C/E/F/H/T/U = cargo, electronic warfare, fighter, helicopter, trainer, UAV, then a 3-digit numeric designator.
Our "CH147" Chinooks were Boeing CH-47C"+"s -- the first C-model with an AFCS (automated flight control system) in additional to the SAS (stability augmentation system). Our C+'s were also upgraded with a 28,000lb hook (vice 24,000 hook of the CH-47C), had a 50,000lb MGTOW (vice 46,000lbs of the C) and an ISIS (internal structural integrity system) in the rotor blades. The engines were also upgraded to the Lycoming T55-L-11C from two earlier engines, the T55-L-7C and the T55-L-11A, and provide ~3,900shp and an emergency 10sec rating of ~4,600shp.
I don't really see anything other than CH147A being used as the designator for the next Canadian model of Chinook brought into service.
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Our "CH147" Chinooks were Boeing CH-47C"+"s -- the first C-model with an AFCS (automated flight control system) in additional to the SAS (stability augmentation system). Our C+'s were also upgraded with a 28,000lb hook (vice 24,000 hook of the CH-47C), had a 50,000lb MGTOW (vice 46,000lbs of the C) and an ISIS (internal structural integrity system) in the rotor blades. The engines were also upgraded to the Lycoming T55-L-11C from two earlier engines, the T55-L-7C and the T55-L-11A, and provide ~3,900shp and an emergency 10sec rating of ~4,600shp.
I don't really see anything other than CH147A being used as the designator for the next Canadian model of Chinook brought into service.
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If one person here can be confused by the suffix letter, others (especially in other people's armies) will be too. Tell your US buddy that you fly CH147As and he'd likely respond, sympathetically, with "I thought that all of those got upgraded/sold/retired/scrapped long ago". Perhaps CH147F would make more sense internationally.Good2Golf said:
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Loachman said:
I concur - albeit we don't differentiate our Hercules aircraft with an "E" or "H". If we get Spartans, will we just call a CC-277 or CC-27J ? CH-147 works for the basic description, adding that "A" might just mess with too many minds in the end.
True, we don't officially tack on an E or H to our Herc designation, but we do use those letters the same as everybody else. We don't call our Es "CC130As" and our Hs "CC130Bs".
Although people could understand that a CH147 is a Chinook, calling what everybody else refers to as an "F" an "A" doesn't promote clarity.
Although people could understand that a CH147 is a Chinook, calling what everybody else refers to as an "F" an "A" doesn't promote clarity.
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